A thread of Pictures of parking firm NTKs

Three versions from UKCPM:

1. October 2023 UKCPM NTK (POFA worded) which is interesting because they say 'up to £20' will be added for debt recovery (this is new):

2. UKCPM's non-POFA version:

Spot the word 'driver' instead of keeper:

Non-POFA giveaway right there!

3. UKCPM's attempt at a Notice to Hirer but it is non-compliant with POFA and was easily beaten with this appeal:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80467264/#Comment_80467264

1505grandad · 5 November 2023 at 5:51PM

My daughter's recent NtK from ECP:-

Image: https://us-noi.v-cdn.net/6031891/uploads/editor/jc/al3qxakacb0x.jpg

Image: https://us-noi.v-cdn.net/6031891/uploads/editor/c7/s57q0e9010f0.jpg

Coupon-mad · 5 November 2023 at 6:21PM

1505grandad said:

My daughter's recent NtK from ECP:-

Jolly good. Thanks!

Easy one now we've sussed in the POPLA Decisions thread that Euro Car Parks' current NTK in 2023 is not POFA compliant:

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80382196/#Comment_80382196

Coupon-mad · 7 November 2023 at 10:49PM

ParkingEye July 2023 (POFA version):

Coupon-mad · 7 November 2023 at 10:49PM

Non-POFA Britannia NTK, 2023:

A POFA one includes this extra paragraph:

From here:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6475957/help-rejection-of-internal-appeals-brittania-parking/p1

Coupon-mad · 7 November 2023 at 11:32PM

PESS (Parking Enforcement & Security Services, a small-fry BPA member).

Non-POFA NTK issued by PCS who do the back office work (PCS = Debt Recovery Plus who know full well they shouldn't be issuing a NTK for £110 which exceeds the BPA CoP ceiling and breaches Schedule 4's maximum):

It also has the same POFA wording omission as ECP, as well as unlawfully demanding £110 from a keeper instead of £100:
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/80389216/#Comment_80389216

Whatever2023 · 8 November 2023 at 12:27PM

This is a NTK following a NTD; therefore, the extra tenner is ok as they can add up to £70 at this stage.

fisherjim · 8 November 2023 at 12:39PM

Whatever2023 said:

This is a NTK following a NTD; therefore, the extra tenner is ok as they can add up to £70 at this stage.

Where did you get that gem from?

Whatever2023 · 8 November 2023 at 12:57PM

24.1b of the BPA CoP allows for £70 to be added when a Parking Charge becomes overdue.

In the case of a windscreen Parking Charge, it is overdue once the 28 days from issue have elapsed; therefore, there is no reason why a NTK following a NTD can’t be sent out at £170.

Obvs does not apply to postal Parking Charges such as ANPR etc.

Coupon-mad · 8 November 2023 at 4:09PM

Whatever2023 said:

24.1b of the BPA CoP allows for £70 to be added when a Parking Charge becomes overdue.

In the case of a windscreen Parking Charge, it is overdue once the 28 days from issue have elapsed; therefore, there is no reason why a NTK following a NTD can’t be sent out at £170.

Obvs does not apply to postal Parking Charges such as ANPR etc.

Completely wrong. In law and in the CoP.

You wish, perhaps, assuming you post as a PPC employee or owner, as you do present yourself that way?

Not only does Schedule 4 of the POFA state as a matter of law that the maximum that can be recovered from the keeper is no more than the charges that stood on the day of the NTD, but the BPA stops this, too.

Operators (including DRAs doing back office NTK/appeals work as opposed to debt recovery) can't add anything before the NTK followed by the expiry of the two mandatory reminders/liability notices first.

I raise you the BPA CoP para 24.4:

https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf

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