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A thread of Pictures of parking firm NTKs

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  • timpster
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  • 24.1b of the BPA CoP allows for £70 to be added when a Parking Charge becomes overdue. 

    In the case of a windscreen Parking Charge, it is overdue once the 28 days from issue have elapsed; therefore, there is no reason why a NTK following a NTD can’t be sent out at £170.

    Obvs does not apply to postal Parking Charges such as ANPR etc.
    Completely wrong. In law and in the CoP.

    You wish, perhaps, assuming you post as a PPC employee or owner, as you do present yourself that way?

    Not only does Schedule 4 of the POFA state as a matter of law that the maximum that can be recovered from the keeper is no more than the charges that stood on the day of the NTD, but the BPA stops this, too.

    Operators (including DRAs doing back office NTK/appeals work as opposed to debt recovery) can't add anything before the NTK followed by the expiry of the two mandatory reminders/liability notices first.

    I raise you the BPA CoP para 24.4:

    https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf






    Given that the NTK is non-POFA, both 24.4 of the CoP and POFA are not relevant; therefore, the NTK is BPA compliant.
  • Fruitcake
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    24.1b of the BPA CoP allows for £70 to be added when a Parking Charge becomes overdue. 

    In the case of a windscreen Parking Charge, it is overdue once the 28 days from issue have elapsed; therefore, there is no reason why a NTK following a NTD can’t be sent out at £170.

    Obvs does not apply to postal Parking Charges such as ANPR etc.
    Completely wrong. In law and in the CoP.

    You wish, perhaps, assuming you post as a PPC employee or owner, as you do present yourself that way?

    Not only does Schedule 4 of the POFA state as a matter of law that the maximum that can be recovered from the keeper is no more than the charges that stood on the day of the NTD, but the BPA stops this, too.

    Operators (including DRAs doing back office NTK/appeals work as opposed to debt recovery) can't add anything before the NTK followed by the expiry of the two mandatory reminders/liability notices first.

    I raise you the BPA CoP para 24.4:

    https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf






    Given that the NTK is non-POFA, both 24.4 of the CoP and POFA are not relevant; therefore, the NTK is BPA compliant.
    It matters not if the NTK complies with the made up BPA "rules" or not. The BPA is not an authority.
    What matters is the law. The law is always relevant. The PoFA 2012 is the law. 
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  • Fruitcake said:
    24.1b of the BPA CoP allows for £70 to be added when a Parking Charge becomes overdue. 

    In the case of a windscreen Parking Charge, it is overdue once the 28 days from issue have elapsed; therefore, there is no reason why a NTK following a NTD can’t be sent out at £170.

    Obvs does not apply to postal Parking Charges such as ANPR etc.
    Completely wrong. In law and in the CoP.

    You wish, perhaps, assuming you post as a PPC employee or owner, as you do present yourself that way?

    Not only does Schedule 4 of the POFA state as a matter of law that the maximum that can be recovered from the keeper is no more than the charges that stood on the day of the NTD, but the BPA stops this, too.

    Operators (including DRAs doing back office NTK/appeals work as opposed to debt recovery) can't add anything before the NTK followed by the expiry of the two mandatory reminders/liability notices first.

    I raise you the BPA CoP para 24.4:

    https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf






    Given that the NTK is non-POFA, both 24.4 of the CoP and POFA are not relevant; therefore, the NTK is BPA compliant.
    It matters not if the NTK complies with the made up BPA "rules" or not. The BPA is not an authority.
    What matters is the law. The law is always relevant. The PoFA 2012 is the law. 
    POFA is not law, it is legislation that an Operator may or may not use; see para 4(6)
  • Fruitcake
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    Umkomaas said:
    24.1b of the BPA CoP allows for £70 to be added when a Parking Charge becomes overdue. 

    In the case of a windscreen Parking Charge, it is overdue once the 28 days from issue have elapsed; therefore, there is no reason why a NTK following a NTD can’t be sent out at £170.

    Obvs does not apply to postal Parking Charges such as ANPR etc.
    Completely wrong. In law and in the CoP.

    You wish, perhaps, assuming you post as a PPC employee or owner, as you do present yourself that way?

    Not only does Schedule 4 of the POFA state as a matter of law that the maximum that can be recovered from the keeper is no more than the charges that stood on the day of the NTD, but the BPA stops this, too.

    Operators (including DRAs doing back office NTK/appeals work as opposed to debt recovery) can't add anything before the NTK followed by the expiry of the two mandatory reminders/liability notices first.

    I raise you the BPA CoP para 24.4:

    https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf






    Given that the NTK is non-POFA, both 24.4 of the CoP and POFA are not relevant; therefore, the NTK is BPA compliant.
    Fruitcake said:
    24.1b of the BPA CoP allows for £70 to be added when a Parking Charge becomes overdue. 

    In the case of a windscreen Parking Charge, it is overdue once the 28 days from issue have elapsed; therefore, there is no reason why a NTK following a NTD can’t be sent out at £170.

    Obvs does not apply to postal Parking Charges such as ANPR etc.
    Completely wrong. In law and in the CoP.

    You wish, perhaps, assuming you post as a PPC employee or owner, as you do present yourself that way?

    Not only does Schedule 4 of the POFA state as a matter of law that the maximum that can be recovered from the keeper is no more than the charges that stood on the day of the NTD, but the BPA stops this, too.

    Operators (including DRAs doing back office NTK/appeals work as opposed to debt recovery) can't add anything before the NTK followed by the expiry of the two mandatory reminders/liability notices first.

    I raise you the BPA CoP para 24.4:

    https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf






    Given that the NTK is non-POFA, both 24.4 of the CoP and POFA are not relevant; therefore, the NTK is BPA compliant.
    It matters not if the NTK complies with the made up BPA "rules" or not. The BPA is not an authority.
    What matters is the law. The law is always relevant. The PoFA 2012 is the law. 
    POFA is not law, it is legislation that an Operator may or may not use; see para 4(6)
    So if the NtK is not PoFA compliant, why is it saying that the PPC has the right to recover from the registered keeper?  
    POFA is not law,
    If 'PoFA is not law', what is 'legislation' then? 

    Skewered methinks!
    The UK Parliament website, various gov.uk websites, and the Cambridge online English dictionary all give much the same definition of the word legislation,

    A law or set of laws suggested by government and made official by Parliament.

    The PoFA 2012, being an Act of Parliament is therefore UK law because it is legislation suggested by the government at the time of its inception, and ratified by Parliament. Just because an unregulated outfit, referred to as rogues, scammers, and bloodsuckers by MPs in open parliamentary debate, decides not to implement the law does not mean the same law cannot be implemented by a motorist.

    Any road up, that's not what this thread is about so I will not discuss this (off) topic further.


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  • Fruitcake said:
    24.1b of the BPA CoP allows for £70 to be added when a Parking Charge becomes overdue. 

    In the case of a windscreen Parking Charge, it is overdue once the 28 days from issue have elapsed; therefore, there is no reason why a NTK following a NTD can’t be sent out at £170.

    Obvs does not apply to postal Parking Charges such as ANPR etc.
    Completely wrong. In law and in the CoP.

    You wish, perhaps, assuming you post as a PPC employee or owner, as you do present yourself that way?

    Not only does Schedule 4 of the POFA state as a matter of law that the maximum that can be recovered from the keeper is no more than the charges that stood on the day of the NTD, but the BPA stops this, too.

    Operators (including DRAs doing back office NTK/appeals work as opposed to debt recovery) can't add anything before the NTK followed by the expiry of the two mandatory reminders/liability notices first.

    I raise you the BPA CoP para 24.4:

    https://www.britishparking.co.uk/write/Documents/AOS/AOS_Code_of_Practice_January_2020_v8(2).pdf






    Given that the NTK is non-POFA, both 24.4 of the CoP and POFA are not relevant; therefore, the NTK is BPA compliant.
    It matters not if the NTK complies with the made up BPA "rules" or not. The BPA is not an authority.
    What matters is the law. The law is always relevant. The PoFA 2012 is the law. 
    How right you are. it amuses me that these foolish PPC's and their legals actually think the BPA CoP is the law, the fools quote it enough
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