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A thread of Pictures of parking firm NTKs

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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 16 November 2023 at 12:59AM
    An operator which always issues NON-POFA NTKs is Smart Parking, therefore dead easy to appeal, as shown here:
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/6485137/smart-parking-easy-win

    Obviously don't lie if it's not true to include the line 'I was not driving' but what you MUST NOT do is say who was.  EASY. Keeper wins.


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  • imalrightjack
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    edited 16 November 2023 at 1:58PM
    Hi,

    I was asked in another thread to post this here.

    Any thoughts are welcome.  Just off to read up on it now.


  • Fruitcake
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    Hi,

    I was asked in another thread to post this here.

    Any thoughts are welcome.  Just off to read up on it now.
    You need to delete those images as you have left your PCN number showing. Someone could do a lot of damage with that.
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  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 15 November 2023 at 8:40PM
    Fruitcake said:
    Hi,

    I was asked in another thread to post this here.

    Any thoughts are welcome.  Just off to read up on it now.
    You need to delete those images as you have left your PCN number showing. Someone could do a lot of damage with that.
    Advice or thoughts for an individual case will not be given on this thread but that is a POFA-compliant NTK.

    Thanks for posting it!

    Here's a redacted version. Unusually, the small print at the bottom does say an unpaid charge will go up to £170 (good luck with that, Initial Parking, LOL!) but it's not a prominent warning, by any means:


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  • Hi @Coupon-mad

    Here is an NTK from NCP. This is non-POFA. Cancelled by NCP at the first stage using the "it's not POFA compliant, therefore you can't transfer liability, no obligation to name driver and won't be doing so ... go and do one" response letter!

    Pages 1 and 2:



  • ... and also a VCS non stopping at airport. This went straight to Final Reminder; I never received the initial NTK. It's non-POFA (suspect they aren't even interested in using POFA from what I can tell).

    1 page only:

  • Premier Park NtK - It does not comply with POFA requirements


  • BikingBud
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    What a bunch of illiterate muppets:

    "You may are legally liable"

    Also any credibility is grossly undermined as they don't understand the difference between "Owner" and "Registered Keeper" and that the driver may be neither of those different people.

  • Coupon-mad
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    edited 13 November 2024 at 11:13PM
    Premier Park NtK - It does not comply with POFA requirements


    Thanks for posting it!

    And conversely, spot the difference:
    Here's a POFA-worded 2023 NTK from the same company in October 2023.
    Premier Park Ltd:


    This shiny new version from this Autumn also states in small print at the bottom, for the first time, that the sum 'may' increase to £160.

    Shame for them that the £70 add-on is not adequately 'prominently' stated here and it wasn't quantified on the signs, thus it comes too late to be part of the alleged contract.


    EDITED TO ADD IN 2024:

    Another non-POFA version.

    Sent too late and says the driver is liable:
    https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/comment/81103631/#Comment_81103631
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  • This shiny new version from this Autumn also states in small print at the bottom, for the first time, that the sum 'may' increase to £160.

    Shame for them that the £70 add-on is not adequately 'prominently' stated here and it wasn't quantified on the signs, thus it comes too late to be part of the alleged contract.

    The reverse is the same in both versions.
    I wonder if they've had time to change all the telephone numbers on their signs?
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