bus lane penalty birmingham. paying within 14 days

Johno100

An update on the above

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/birmingham-bus-lane-signs-illegal-6645737

A traffic watchdog has questioned the legality of Birmingham City Council’s controversial bus lanes scheme – raising hopes tens of thousands of fines could be scrapped.

Stephen Knapp, of the independent Traffic Penalty Tribunal, has asked the authority to defend its controversial ticketing policy, amid suggestions road warning signs do not meet Government rules.

In a letter to the council’s transport department he asked officials to explain why certain signage does not appear to comply with Department for Transport traffic signs regulations.

In one comment he asks why a sign has been used without markings on the carriageway, as usually required.

Mr Knapp is due in Birmingham on February 12 and 13 to hear the first appeals over the controversial city centre bus lanes enforcement cameras.

Between the cameras introduction in September and mid-December they have issued 80,000 tickets to drivers, with fines of £60 cut in half if paid promptly.

tir21

This was going to be a tribunal for each individual appeal

But I believe the adjudicator is going to deal with everyones appeal in one go

Does this make it any more likely that he will rule in the motorists favour?

forgotmyname

Have they found a flaw in the signs or procedures?

4consumerrights

tir21 wrote: »

This was going to be a tribunal for each individual appeal

But I believe the adjudicator is going to deal with everyones appeal in one go

Does this make it any more likely that he will rule in the motorists favour?

This is still a lot of threads Tir21 - one of your original ones here was bumped up a few days ago - somebody posted:-

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4832120

http://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news...llegal-6645737

A traffic watchdog has questioned the legality of Birmingham City Council’s controversial bus lanes scheme – raising hopes tens of thousands of fines could be scrapped.

Stephen Knapp, of the independent Traffic Penalty Tribunal, has asked the authority to defend its controversial ticketing policy, amid suggestions road warning signs do not meet Government rules.

In a letter to the council’s transport department he asked officials to explain why certain signage does not appear to comply with Department for Transport traffic signs regulations.

In one comment he asks why a sign has been used without markings on the carriageway, as usually required.

Mr Knapp is due in Birmingham on February 12 and 13 to hear the first appeals over the controversial city centre bus lanes enforcement cameras.

Between the cameras introduction in September and mid-December they have issued 80,000 tickets to drivers, with fines of £60 cut in half if paid promptly.

This could be good news providing all the evidence is looked at regarding the apparent discrepancies in signage and the sheer volume of tickets being produced here. This is obviously also a cost cutting excerise and will save money to hear all appeals in one sitting.

Keep us updated with the result - and you'll never see a bailiff!

tir21

Regarding bus lane fine issued from cctv

If they respond after this length of time, can you ask for case to be dropped?

Thanks

4consumerrights

Tir21 - how many more threads are you going to start regarding your bus lane charge? Any more - and it will be reported that you are deliberately causing a distraction with a request that no further threads can be posted by you on this forum regarding this subject.

You have been all the advice to help and you know full well that the Adjudicator is holding a mass appeal regarding this particular bus lane.



https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4888800


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4832120



https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4859429


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4838322


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/4838320

tir21

Can you please not bother replying unless you have anything useful to say

Thanks

4consumerrights

I have given you useful advice on the other threads - so please stick to one of those - it seems that you are unable to take the advice given by everyone who has posted - and that was to post on Pepipoo for assistance in appealing.

You did not seem to know the different stages of the appeals process and then started another thread regarding baliffs when you are nowhere near that stage.

Stages: ticket recieved - either pay or appeal - pay matter closed.
appeal - heard first stage - either accepted (matter closed)
or rejected - appeal second stage - further help required.
Outcome second stage - either appeal accepted or rejected.
If rejected - pay - plus charging order applied to orginal fine
(not sure if immediately applied or allowed short time to pay
as it may vary with different councils)
If payment not received then - council will apply to court.
You will be able to submit a witness statement at this point to
defend your case.
Court outcome - you will either win the case or lose
If you lose you must pay within the specified time or else then
court will apply for a bailiff to attend.
At this point the original fine will be ridicously high as you are
liable for bailiffs fees also. A bailiff will need an Execution
Warrant which is valid for a 12 months to visit your premises
and settle the debt.

Now does that answer your questions?

Regarding this latest thread - as this is a mass hearing it is possibly good news considering the amount of bad press - which if you read your previous threads you will have seen further comments made.

tir21

Who put you in charge?

Does your telling me what I can post carry any authority or can I just ignor you?

If I have a new question why shouldnt I start a new thread?

What is your problem with new threads?

I just cannot for the life of me understand you self appointed guardian types attitude

You spoil this website

Now get gone and dont darken my door again

Nodding_Donkey

WTG fella.

Ask for help and then insult one of the people on the forum that, along with others, helps a majority of the newbies that post.