iOS 6 for iPhone 4s and iPad to include free satnav powered by TomTom

grumbler

thegoodman wrote: »

When I buy a product I like to know that within a short time iits not going to drop in price.
Otherwise it only shows that manufacture want to rip customer off who need to buy the phone soon to make make more money and then drop the price. Another eg HTC one X out at £500 within three months down to £320.

Don't buy an android as soon as it released then. You can survive for 3 months with a one year old version.
If iPhone price doesn't drop that fast this just means that Apple keep ripping of customers permanently, not during the first months like other manufacturers. The real cost of iPhone is well known and is a very popular topic in the internet that you like to search.

The business plan not to drop the price do work, look at the car companies most Germany cars hold the price and known for quality because these type of companies can invest back into new products.

Yes, quality of iPhones is so high that Apple are not afraid to offer a normal warranty on them. Wait... Are they? Maybe the real ripoff is to charge £60+ for the normal warranty or £130+ for any repair after one year?

liubeliu

grumbler wrote: »

The real cost of iPhone is well know and is a very popular topic in the internet that you like to search.

The last article I saw had the iPhone parts costed around USD185, labour probably not much due to the labour cost in China. I wonder why Apple is one of the most cash rich companies in the World (this is cash reserves of >$100 Billion and not including assets like estate). Other reports say that Apple makes $300 profit per iPhone!

I am partly to blame as I pay a premium for my MacBook etc. But am happy with my Note which is better (in my opinion) then any iPhone and at a saving of £100's over a 24 month contract.

owen1978

Lets not turn this into Android vs Apple debate...
we don't need to sink to the levels of TGM.

Anyway...

Its great for the consumer that they finally have got a quality
free sat nav app... about time to!

Tom Tom has great navigation software so it should work well
eventually it will probably have offline mode, to match its competitors.

The only bad news I see is that this means that apple are going to remove Google Maps & Street View from IOS.

Personally I believe the consumer should be given the choice, Google maps has wealth of information, from data collected over many years which in my opinion will be hard to beat.

thegoodman

You can install Google Map as an app. The defaul app is going to be Tomtom or iMap.

thegoodman

23n1th wrote: »

Samsung and others have no control over the price their phones are sold at by third partys or OEMs.

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You are wrong. The Samsung and others set the base price or cost price for others to buy. Companies are not going to sell them at lost. The reason price start to go down is because companies start to lower the base price once people who have already purchased the item are ripped off at higher base price.

Thats how it works

If you think Samsung is a public service or not out to make money you are wrong. In first three months of 2012 samsung have made $4.46b in profit (around $50m a day), not too far off Apple and others.

Cash-Strapped.T32

No, just no.
Some things in life can be called opinion, some things are open for debate.
This isn't one of them, it's not a multi-corporation conspiracy that somehow Apple have managed to keep out of.

Until we move to a completely new technology like quantum computing or whatever, or maybe hit the literal limit of silicone technology, then the technology & manufacturing simply moves on, computing gets cheaper & more powerful as time goes on.
There's even a name for it; Tom's Law. Or was it's !!!!!!'s law? Harry's law? Damn, I forget..

Of course, newly released smartphones do carry an idiot-premium, and of course, all manufacturers will *negotiate* a price to carriers to supply contract-phones, and will set a basic RRP for sim-free phones, of course they do, this is a capitalist society.

But this price comes down over time for natural reasons, that have nothing to do with "ripping people off".


You're right in this respect though. The rip-off was much earlier, when the phone first came out & the idiots camped out all night waiting to pay a small fortune for a fancy toy.
(and in the interest of fairness I do include all smartphones in this little rant)


*EDIT* And just to pick the obvious logical point up, because of the Moore's effect, phones like all computing comes down in price "naturally" so to speak. The fact that iPhones don't come down is an anomaly.
They're not magic, they're made out of the same metal & plastic as any other phone, and are subject to the same technological advances.
The price stays high because Apple have a policy to keep the price high in order to milk the "cool" effect.

That's about as unnatural as it gets, it's the very definition of "ripping people off", because even though it gets cheaper for Apple, they choose to keep charging the same price just for the sake of image.

grumbler

thegoodman wrote: »

If you think Samsung is a public service or not out to make money you are wrong.

It was you who was wrong suggesting that all companies except Apple rip their customers off. All companies do this. Apple do this on a larger scale than most other companies.

In first three months of 2012 samsung have made $4.46b in profit (around $50m a day), not too far off Apple and others.

You can't be serious. The range of products and the scale of manufacturing are absolutely incomparable. Samsung make memory cards, cameras, vacuum cleaners, fridges, ... you name it. I think they are the largest supplier of LCD panels (or more recent modifications) for many other companies. Do they not make components for iPhones as well?

owen1978

thegoodman wrote: »

You can install Google Map as an app. The defaul app is going to be Tomtom or iMap.

"Earlier versions of iOS will possibly continue to use Google's map data, because the new app uses different software interfaces, or APIs. It's also unclear whether Google will be allowed to submit its own Maps app to Apple's App Store, where it might be deemed to "duplicate existing functionality" of inbuilt iPhone software. Neither company had responded to a request for clarification by the time of publication."

http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2012/jun/11/apple-ios-wwdc-google-maps?newsfeed=true

thegoodman

You can also use the web version of maps for iPhone which is like the app on the phone

gjchester

From me the answer is a Meh!.

Now I have a 4 but will probalby go to a 5 (or what it's called) later in the year, but so what if it has TomTom on board, there are other solutions I already use, it's no biggie if they are in the OS or Apps to load on.

My iPhone has NavFree and Waze on it, NavFree runs onboard, and Waqze uses crowd sourcing to find traffic hotspots and re-route. TomTom on board adds nothing new.