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iOS 6 for iPhone 4s and iPad to include free satnav powered by TomTom

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  • thegoodman
    thegoodman Posts: 1,235 Forumite
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    DUTR and 23n1th should be using the private messaging. Do others need to know your conversation? =)(=
  • liubeliu
    liubeliu Posts: 311 Forumite
    edited 12 June 2012 at 3:40PM
    Well many like me prefer to have a 'normal' smartphone (3-4 inches) anything bigger, I may as well carry my 12" thinkpad around :)

    I like most consumers prefer choice, I was frustrated at the choice on iPhone restricted to 3.5". Despite it being a good phone and having been happy with all the Apple products I have owned since 1989 from my first Mac Classic to my current MacBook and various iPod and iPhone.

    Screen size was a deal breaker, I looked at what Samsung could do and I have a choice of 3.5", 4.3", 4.7" and 5.3".

    I could carry a 12" thinkpad but it is quite a bit heavier than a note, a lot bigger and not much good as a phone.

    Sir Jonny Ive needs to stop believing that a 3.5" screen is the fit all and realise that the consumer needs choice to fit its indivdual purpose. People are individuals and not clones.
  • thegoodman
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    liubeliu wrote: »
    I like most consumers prefer choice, I was frustrated at the choice on iPhone restricted to 3.5". Despite it being a good phone and having been happy with all the Apple products I have owned since 1989 from my first Mac Classic to my current MacBook and various iPod and iPhone.

    Screen size was a deal breaker, I looked at what Samsung could do and I have a choice of 3.5", 4.3", 4.7" and 5.3".

    I could carry a 12" thinkpad but it is quite a bit heavier than a note, loads better and not much good as a phone.

    Sir Jonny Ive needs to stop believing that a 3.5" screen is the fit all and realise that the consumer needs choice to fit its indivdual purpose. People are individuals and not clones.
    I agree. The problem is choice only work as long as what most people want. For now Samsung is trying many screen size, I bet once it find it's market it will stick to one or two screen size for its popular range.

    I can't see Samsung doing S3 with 3.5, 4.0 and 4.5 as well as 4.7 screen size so people can select the screen. It's 4.7 or nothing

    The budget range may have many screen size, apple is not into this range.
  • liubeliu
    liubeliu Posts: 311 Forumite
    thegoodman wrote: »
    The budget range may have many screen size, apple is not into this range.

    Not true, Samsung is not a budget range. If it is then that makes the iPhone at least 25% budget :rotfl:
  • DUTR
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    thegoodman wrote: »
    DUTR and 23n1th should be using the private messaging. Do others need to know your conversation? =)(=

    Why is that? Cos we write the truth on here?
    Or we dare to answer?
    What you don't see is that we back up your excitement, just that users of other devices have enjoyed those features for a long time, Apple are finally catching up :D
  • DUTR
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    thegoodman wrote: »
    I agree. The problem is choice only work as long as what most people want. For now Samsung is trying many screen size, I bet once it find it's market it will stick to one or two screen size for its popular range.

    I can't see Samsung doing S3 with 3.5, 4.0 and 4.5 as well as 4.7 screen size so people can select the screen. It's 4.7 or nothing

    The budget range may have many screen size, apple is not into this range.

    And that is where there downfall lays, people want choice, and you will have to eat your words when Apple bow and increase the screensize and adopt 16:9 aspect ratio, mind you for a while ip5 users will still have to put up with black bars down the side of the screen when running nearly all apps.
    Nope Apple are not into this range, but they will have to bow down to the consumer market, it is obvious other manufacturers have succeeded in offering products what people want, not telling them what they can have. :T
  • Its a shame for all those developers that have spent the time and money developing sat nav applications.
  • grumbler
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    thegoodman wrote: »
    I can't see Samsung doing S3 with 3.5, 4.0 and 4.5 as well as 4.7 screen size so people can select the screen. It's 4.7 or nothing
    Why does it have to be Galaxy and cannot be Note or something else?
  • DUTR
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    Its a shame for all those developers that have spent the time and money developing sat nav applications.

    Not really, not everybody will always want to consume data for navigation, I have unlimited data but still use navfree or sygic, also if the user is in an area outside of network coverage then the online satnav is useless.
  • Cash-Strapped.T32
    Cash-Strapped.T32 Posts: 562 Forumite
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    edited 12 June 2012 at 6:23PM
    Indeed, I put little faith in GPS apps that require a data connection, be it to locate your position, or to stream the map.
    Kinda like buying a Landrover that can only drive on paved roads, you know?

    Keep it simple; Reduce the number of components that could go wrong, don't add more. Don't rely on your data connection to always be working at the same time as your GPS link, save that damn map on your internal storage/SDCard.

    The logic is indisputable (more links in a chain is just more bits that could fail), but those ineffable "most" consumers that we always hear about won't be interested in such basic common sense, they'll probably only read as far as "TomTo-" on the advert before they rush in & slap a half-grand on the table for the new iPhone, so I'd agree that GPS devs who specialise in iOS will probably be in for lean times ahead.

    Me, cynical? Not at all, I recognise it's a well-placed business move by Apple & probably for TT too.
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