iOS 6 for iPhone 4s and iPad to include free satnav powered by TomTom

DUTR

reallyAnnoyed wrote: »

Yes, ROAMING data charges are high. That is why mobile operators advise users to disable data roaming when traveling abroad. If you are in UK and are on unlimited internet contract then roaming charges are not an issue.

Indeed but you did write "then the data charges for facetime call would be cheaper than the call charges to a mobile call abroad." and we were on about facetime over 3G

thegoodman

Who cares if Apple is playing catch-up to its competitors for its built in SatNav, if it means taking the time to create a fully thought-out implementation rather than be first to market.

Samsung is playing catch up with Siri with its S voice. As long as s voice work do anyone care?

DUTR

thegoodman wrote: »

Who cares if Apple is playing catch-up to its competitors for its built in SatNav, if it means taking the time to create a fully thought-out implementation rather than be first to market.

You obviously care, I said a long time ago , they like Nokia would become a victim of their own success, look at the blurbs now, it has a larger screen than the iphone, it has a better camera than the iphone etc. What will be the icing on the cake is if the next version has an FM radio, one would think Apple created stereo broadcasting :rotfl:
The online navigation model has been around for many years, you know the Sygic on my Wildfire has 3D imaging around city centres?
Other features are already available on my mid range handset eg Navigate to to Tesco via the voice command will open the navigator and navigate to the nearby supermarket :cool:
Like the article I posted much earlier...200 new features...200 new features to iOS but available in handsets from years gone by, the timed profiles is another feature that has been long available .

reallyAnnoyed_2

DUTR wrote: »

Indeed but you did write "then the data charges for facetime call would be cheaper than the call charges to a mobile call abroad." and we were on about facetime over 3G

and I stand by what I said. :-) if you are in UK and have gone over your data allowance (if you do not have unlimited UK data bundle), your out of bundle data charges ARE cheaper than per minute charges for an international call.
Also, for an international VIDEO call, the other party's network should also support VIDEO calls.

DUTR

reallyAnnoyed wrote: »

and I stand by what I said. :-) if you are in UK and have gone over your data allowance (if you do not have unlimited UK data bundle), your out of bundle data charges ARE cheaper than per minute charges for an international call.
Also, for an international VIDEO call, the other party's network should also support VIDEO calls.

Out of bundle video calls are around 50p/min, not aware of how much data a video call generates, naturally the recieving handset and network will have to support video calling as it would for facetime.
I agree there are alternatives when travelling but the alternatives are not exclusive to Apple

DUTR

thegoodman wrote: »

Video call charges are too high. At least with the face time you can use your Internet data
Also unlike video calls you do not loss your minutes.

Whether it be data or minutes, some bundle or charges are sacrificed for the service when used :beer:

Cash-Strapped.T32

How can this be causing controversy?

It's simply a smart business move for both parties and nothing more - TomTom are on a downward trend, both in device sales and subscriptions to it's live services so they want a pick-me-up, and possibly are looking for a new model to keep selling their existing "product" now that quality GPS is so universally cheap and hardware boxes that sit on your dashboard are no longer the way to go.
But, they still have a very tradeable name, the word "Tomtom" is still a valuable commodity to the right person.

Getting into bed with Apple means that every iPhone customer will probably now become a Tomtom live services customer albeit via Apple, which is good for TT as it generates income, and anyone who's got TT live on their phone is unlikely to buy an expensive Garmin from Halfords or Asda.

In turn, Apple get a ready-made household name to point to, it lets them keep the prices high, and if they have any sense, will use this to deny the Tomtom name to their competitor's phones even more.


The rest of it isn't anything much imo, just a few tweaks & I'm not even gonna get into Facetime vs basic video calling (what's the difference really, other than the servers it runs on?) - To be honest, I'm a little bored of both Android and iOS and the ever present comparisons - Wake me up when either of them can hold a candle to XP or even Win95..

/note to self; gotta dig out my old HTC s620 running windows 98, now that was a good smartphone.. :rotfl:

MikeWhite

Cash-Strapped.T32 wrote: »

Getting into bed with Apple means that every iPhone customer will probably now become a Tomtom live services customer albeit via Apple, which is good for TT as it generates income, and anyone who's got TT live on their phone is unlikely to buy an expensive Garmin from Halfords or Asda.

I hadn't realised that users would need to subscribe to Live services on iPhones - are you sure about that?

Mike

DUTR

MikeWhite wrote: »

I hadn't realised that users would need to subscribe to Live services on iPhones - are you sure about that?

Mike

Traffic services are often chargeable, admittedly the TT traffic service I did subscribe to for 2 years, until TT stopped offering the £8 off voucher, the only one I knew of that was free (that covered non major trunk roads and motorways) was the INRIX which only ran on symbian.

MikeWhite

DUTR wrote: »

Traffic services are often chargeable, admittedly the TT traffic service I did subscribe to for 2 years, until TT stopped offering the £8 off voucher, the only one I knew of that was free (that covered non major trunk roads and motorways) was the ICTIS which only ran on symbian.

I understand. I am just comparing with Google Maps though, where the traffic information is free. I would be surprised if iPhone users had to pay?

Mike