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Cash-Strapped.T32

That's the major argument against Android for me, multi core processors, powerful GPUs, loads of RAM and it STILL doesn't run completely smoothly? The definition of inefficiency if you ask me.

That's a strong point, and sort of difficult to argue against.
All I can really say is that Android isn't half as buggy as Windows 9x used to be, and it seems half the world ran on it.

Buggyness isn't always about inefficient use of resources (as I'm sure you already know, I don't mean to patronise, just outline my point), it can equally be a result of an OS running on tonnes of different hardware set-ups, a scenario we've been used to for years with desktop PCs - And my suspicion is that this is where the buggyness reported usually comes from.

So on that score, I wouldn't say it's necessarily a point against Android, more about the microsoftesque model they choose, where they put out an OS, and everyone else makes hardware for it to run on.

Apple on the other hand have always used their own software on their own hardware (to the extreme where I'm having a chuffer of a job converting a G5 case to standard ATX pc standards), so maybe it's a bit unfair, but I do expect more standardisation in that model, as there's no reason for things that are disparate in other manufactures not to work perfectly together when it's all done in-house.

I certainly get a super smooth "experience" from my el-cheapo blade running a well crafted custom ROM that day-to-day works just as well as an expensive iPhone - But saying that can't be used as a stick to beat the iPhone.


*EDIT* Nice link there Frogmella; A nice look at how the same, very basic thing can be done differently depending on who the coder is; I wouldn't say that either option is "bad", just putting a different emphasis on what you want the software to do.



..On the subject of innovation that came up earlier - here's one to throw out to any smartphone execs out there..

I'm sat at work, in my office using the computer. On the desk is a keyboard & mouse, because I'm a traditionalist.

Also on the desk is my phone, which is my computer, and it is plugged into a tablet, which is my monitor.

Call comes in, touch my phone's screen to pick up, talk on speakerphone or lift it to my ear. After I go back to my spreadsheets & buckets of emails to wade through (some things never change).

Later I unplug the tablet & take it into a meeting to show that report I was doing yesterday, and to walk them through my figures using it like a normal tablet.
Need to access company records or to be "plugged into" a company network all day? Hell, it's a mobile phone - network access is what it was made for & it's wireless.
Put it in pocket, go home in the evening.

When I get home I like to play demanding PC games like CoD, Quake & UT because I'm a big kid.
Hook the phone up to my tablet, & mouse/KB combo because even in my modern fantasy world, FPSs still need a mouse/KB.

Luckily, we have some top-notch programmers & designers in my world, so when my phone plugs into the tablet, the system knows to use my phone's hardware for what would normally be the processor, ram & onboard hardware, and the tablet's processor/ram as the normally separate GPU, driving the 3d graphics on screen as well as a traditional gaming PC.

Data bandwidth between the two might be an issue, but I doubt it would *too* big a hurdle to overcome if you consider how normal data-transfer speeds have progressed.

So there you go, you can have that one for free Apple or Google.
That's the sort of thing I'd call an innovation, not adding a new brand of traffic-routing software or a piddly little OS update with a new screen-lock..

mrochester

Apart from the grip of death problem on the iPhone 4. Jobs/Ive overruled the Apple techies and stuck with the design that had a major technical flaw. Apple is about design first and technology has to compromise to achieve their design ideal.

I was lucky enough to dodge that altogether so even the 4 worked wonderfully for me .

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baby_frogmella wrote: »

Here’s Why Android’s UI Will Never Be As Smooth As iOS Or Windows Phone 7

So basically androids ability to multi-task is the reason why the UI is choppy???

mrochester wrote: »

If I'm paying good money I expect the product to work the way I want it to out of the box! I'm certainly not going to give manufacturers the nod to crappy products I have to 'fix' myself!!

I believe your problem with any none apple product is that they wont ever work the way you want them to out of the box (even if they did) because they are not an apple product.

mrochester wrote: »

I was lucky enough to dodge that altogether so even the 4 worked wonderfully for me .

How convenient!:eek: I quite expect that if you lived in Australia your new ipad 3 would actually be 4G as well!</sarcasm>

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liubeliu wrote: »

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Yes Android might have been ripped off from iOS, but wasn't the original Mac GUI ripped off from Xerox?

How can android be a rip off iOS when android existed first?

Take_it_like_a_man,_sonny

Does it do Horace goes skiing?

mrochester

I believe your problem with any none apple product is that they wont ever work the way you want them to out of the box (even if they did) because they are not an apple product.

Well if an Android device can't be made that isn't huge and isn't laggy then I guess I will continue to buy Apple products until someone manages to figure out how to make such a product. Microsoft and Nokia managed to do it with their Lumia phones however, it just seems to be the Android device manufacturers who are incapable of this!

How convenient! I quite expect that if you lived in Australia your new ipad 3 would actually be 4G as well!</sarcasm>

Yep, the new iPad sold in Australia does actually contain the necessary hardware for LTE connectivity. It's the same as the one sold in the UK; the LTE connectivity is still there. We just can't use it in this country. Mind, I'm sufficiently knowledgable to know that.

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mrochester wrote: »

Well if an Android device can't be made that isn't huge and isn't laggy then I guess I will continue to buy Apple products until someone manages to figure out how to make such a product. Microsoft and Nokia managed to do it with their Lumia phones however, it just seems to be the Android device manufacturers who are incapable of this!

I'm sure you tell yourself android is laggy and the divices are hugh to justify paying over the odds for under-powered hardware, but its just not the case.

Lets hope the iphone 5 does have the 4.6inch screen otherwise you wont be able to get it will you:rotfl:

Yep, the new iPad sold in Australia does actually contain the necessary hardware for LTE connectivity. It's the same as the one sold in the UK; the LTE connectivity is still there. We just can't use it in this country. Mind, I'm sufficiently knowledgable to know that.

Yep just like apple to lie to its customers.

mrochester

I'm sure you tell yourself android is laggy and the divices are hugh to justify paying over the odds for under-powered hardware, but its just not the case.

I just need to use Android devices to find that they're laggy. The Galaxy Nexus was the least laggy of the lot but it was also a very large device that I couldn't comfortably use one handed, so it was out on that basis. The Xperia P I could use one handed, but it also lagged in operation!

It's interesting that you're trying to dictate what my experience has been. I don't know why you think you have any authority on the matter or why you think you know my thoughts better than I do!

Yep just like apple to lie to its customers

All new iPads have 4G connectivity hardware in them.

Lets hope the iphone 5 does have the 4.6inch screen otherwise you wont be able to get it will you

If Apple make it that massive, I simply won't buy it. However, I have my doubts that Apple would do that anyway.

mrochester

Wow! A whole 2 devices used and judgement passed on android as a whole. You've obviously not used a SGS2

I had an SGS2 for a time last year. The problem with that device was it was slightly too large for comfortable one handed usage, the screen resolution was too low for my use and the build material quality was pretty lousy for a high end device.

You'll buy it, you have no choice.

There are literally hundreds of devices on the market for me to choose from.

mrochester

Each to their own, mine has been running fine, build quality excellent, I can use it one handed, and resolution of the screen is fine. The

You must have non human eyes and really small hands.

Hehe, you're funny! No, just different requirements to you. I value pin sharp text on a screen as I do a lot of web browsing and reading on my phone. And I frequently use my phone one handed, so it needs to be small enough to allow me to comfortably reach all parts of the screen.

But none of them will be the up-to-date apple device. Face it you're getting the new iphone, for you its inevitable.:rotfl:

It really doesn't bother me whether I have the most up-to-date Apple device or not. All I care about is having the best device that meets my needs.