02 Retentions thread 2

petey

p.s. are you getting any good deals in regards to 12 month deals?

i notice you seem predominantely focused on the 18 and 24 month deals.

redkitty_3

petey wrote: »

that deal you listed above is actually really good if it was a 12 month contract version. did you ask how much it would be all and for an equivalent deal but on 12 months?

i've been getting silly quotes for the price of the N95-8gb handset for over and upwards of £200.

i presume the 18 month deal for what you got offered is double mins and double texts so normally that would be 400 mins and 500 texts on a 12month contract.. but for £25 a month that actually is still quite good esp if it's £50 for the N95-8gb.. unless of course they're trying to ship you the N95 +8gb card.. which isn't the same thing at all..

No, it was for an 18 month contract. On a 12 month they wanted £100 for the phone and then £40 a month for calls.

I have just called again and they're sticking to their guns and saying they can't do it free/for less than £25 a month. Arrrgh! This is exactly what happened to me last year with the N73 - but I got it free in the end...why is nothing ever straightforward?! :mad:

redkitty_3

newmoneysaver101 wrote: »

I'd snap that up!!
Save £15 a month, but its £50 for the phone when its actually free on that tariff.

Hey, so you *can* get this phone free if you go for the £25 a month option? Details please! :cool:

gmanp

I do appreciate that the phone will become cheaper over time. The point I was trying to get across is that the Nokia N82 has all the features that you would ever want over the next 24 months, i.e. amazing 5m Xenon camera, Wi-Fi, HSDPA, Sat Nav, near unlimited expandable memory (currently 8Gb...) for Music & Video & great connectivity (TV-out, USB, bluetooth etc). And that over the next 24 months there will not be enough ground breaking developments (e.g. sat nav, major improvement in camera quality) that will make the nokia n82 look significantly inferior.
What do you think???

gmanp

If you're willing to have the nokia n82 for 24 months, which as i have stated I believe is possible because it is amazing and future proof (up to 24m), then because of the naturally lower line rental - this compromise will save you a lot of money.
i.e. after an 18m contract, even with retention deals, signing a new contract with a new phone will be at roughly the same line rental. So over a 24m period (18m contract, followed by 6 months of a new contract):
a £25p/m tariff will cost £25x24=£600

While on a 24m contract making the compromise of holding off another 6m for a new phone, which the nokia n82 i think can pull off,
a £20p/m tariff will cost £20x24=£480.

newmoneysaver101

petey wrote: »

for instance with your deal at £25 x 12 = £300... but on a 18 month that = £450. so you need to be aware of the deals you're getting aren't as good as they seem.

Petey i think the deal i got was very good. The phone will last at least 2 year technology wise (ive managed to last my N80 for 18 months and its still going strong.

Fair play, its £450 over 18 months BUT.. FREE top for the range phone.. and £15 reduction over £18 months - saving £270.... compaired to new customers.

In regard to phoning up about notes on the system.. i dread to think what was on mine.. i phoned up 5 times in 5 hours!! But got the deal i wanted in the end..

I used the 'my friend has this and that' line, but it didnt get me anywhere. It TOTALLY depends on who you speak to IMHO. 5 times.. and 5 different deals, now how it that possible.. especially if they put notes on your account.. Maybe someone from o2 can oblige?

eljmayes

newmoneysaver101 wrote: »

Petey i think the deal i got was very good. The phone will last at least 2 year technology wise (ive managed to last my N80 for 18 months and its still going strong.

Fair play, its £450 over 18 months BUT.. FREE top for the range phone.. and £15 reduction over £18 months - saving £270.... compaired to new customers.

In regard to phoning up about notes on the system.. i dread to think what was on mine.. i phoned up 5 times in 5 hours!! But got the deal i wanted in the end..

I used the 'my friend has this and that' line, but it didnt get me anywhere. It TOTALLY depends on who you speak to IMHO. 5 times.. and 5 different deals, now how it that possible.. especially if they put notes on your account.. Maybe someone from o2 can oblige?

They are hit and miss with the notes- I would say that personally it be very frustrating when they don't:(.

The best idea is to try and ring up consistantly throughout the upgrade month, be polite and be prepared to argue your case to them:).

petey

newmoneysaver101 wrote: »

Petey i think the deal i got was very good. The phone will last at least 2 year technology wise (ive managed to last my N80 for 18 months and its still going strong.

Fair play, its £450 over 18 months BUT.. FREE top for the range phone.. and £15 reduction over £18 months - saving £270.... compaired to new customers.

In regard to phoning up about notes on the system.. i dread to think what was on mine.. i phoned up 5 times in 5 hours!! But got the deal i wanted in the end..

I used the 'my friend has this and that' line, but it didnt get me anywhere. It TOTALLY depends on who you speak to IMHO. 5 times.. and 5 different deals, now how it that possible.. especially if they put notes on your account.. Maybe someone from o2 can oblige?

i think it's a good deal in regards to what you're getting tariff wise but in terms of say having the latest handset and it being 'top' of the range i've noticed that majority of the brands nokia, sony, samsung their phones only seem to have a product life cycle of 6-9 months before a competitor produces something superior or themselves supersede their current flagship model for something else..

the n95 admittedly for the past 9 months has been the top phone model in regards to megapix camera quality etc but now LG have released their own version and so have sony and samsung so now it's still superior but not as much as it was and certainly no way will be in 6 months time as nokia have already released their 8gb version and also n82. this is why i feel denying yourself the opportunity to upgrade every 12 months is suicidal in regards to overall saving and value cos of course the handset is subsidised by your line rental but the handset depreciates over time.

but fair play to you for getting a great tariff deal.. personally i would avoid those because i'd be kicking myself from months 12-18 with an obsolete phone in comparison to the rest of the market. these mobile operators know what they're doing in regards to ripping us consumers off.

petey

eljmayes wrote: »

They are hit and miss with the notes- I would say that personally it be very frustrating when they don't:(.

The best idea is to try and ring up consistantly throughout the upgrade month, be polite and be prepared to argue your case to them:).

see with the notes it's frustrating because they keep referring to what you've been offered earlier on in the day and won't budge, they keep trying to call your bluff in a take it or leave it kind of way and all i do is just sit tight and wait but it seems for my current monthly spend and the fact i never go over my line rental limit as it covers all i need is bad for them in regards to deciding to do me a good deal.

the crap they come up with in regards to the 'oh the handset price is greater than the amount you contribute each year i.e. say i'm on a £25/month line rental x 12 months = £300 apparently that still doesn't make up for cost of the handset which makes no sense to me when on their website for new customers if you get this n95-8gb handset on a 12 month £40/month tariff = £480 the handset is free.. but if you go down to a £35 one its like £150 for the handset! that's ridiculous.. clearly they're buying them in bulk and must be getting them at a cost price of less than £300 no matter the handset even this n95-8gb so i can't see how they keep trying to justify their claims because 'offline' its £450 or something..

to be honest i'm starting to get fed up trying to negotiate with them..

i personally know for a fact that these phones depreciate every month and when they reorder they get a better price as month on month the phones value depreciates so they therefore get a better price which is then consequently passed onto the consumers but not at the same rate of saving they make.


i've noticed that with the o2 online leisure tariffs (off peak any network mins) for £30 month the equivalent line rental on that same one was £25 this time last year. but despite this the phone is still like £250!! that's insane.

i'm really curious to know if anyone has managed to stay on their tariff from the previous year and get the existing customer discounted line rental with a new nokia n95-8gb for free or under £100 on 12 month contract?

are they still doing this £15 off line rental discount to upgrade customers on your current tariff or do they only offer it on new tariffs you have to change to??

newmoneysaver101

Petey, i agree, 18 months is a long contract.. but my N80 was/is good, has wifi, 3.2mp camera and is still up there compaired to new phones being released. Line rental discount was good, ( i had £20 off these past 18 months)

Maybe worth having a look here:
New o2 tariff's Feb 1st.. I was going to wait to see what they could offer me then, but i took the deal they gave me.

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=163062