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Mrs S…the next chapter (separation and all that comes with it)

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  • MrsSave
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    I am glad you are able to discuss things and agree the big things together. I am in a much less amicable situation :(

    enjoy your shiny new notebook. I love the exciting possibilities of a fresh new notebook.
    I’m really sorry to hear that :( I hope things get better for you soon
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  • MrsSave
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    I remembered earlier that we also have a joint Monzo card. I’ll have to close that down as well. I feel very insensitive doing that until he actually moves out though so will add it to this weekend’s list of things to do. I’m at the point where I’m desperate to talk with someone in real life about what’s happening. Not too long to wait now. I’m pretty sure that doesn’t sound very nice, but in my head I have been desperate to be alone for so long now. I want my independence and freedom basically.

    There’s a food shop coming tomorrow morning. I found this one really hard to do because he’ll only be here for half the week but I again don’t want to look insensitive by not ordering some of his usuals that I know he won't eat before he leaves. I’m probably overthinking things massively. On the plus side, the food shop is very low due to having so much in the house still from Christmas!
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  • savingholmes
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    Good luck with the next phase of your journey. 

    I made the decision to divorce this year - and got it done in record time. My kids are older though and it was an amicable split. Still expensive though. I remortgaged into my name via a broker recommended on here - and said I planned to work until I was 74 to meet affordability ;)
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  • savingholmes
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    I found journalling and list making a life saver - so I'm sure your trusty notebook will come in very handy
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  • MrsSave
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    We’re having a food delivery this morning and it has come to £42.31. It only came to that because I added toilet paper and laundry powder to save either paying an extra £4 for delivery or going to the shop myself. They’ll be needed at some point so definitely not a waste. I did click last night that January is a 5 food shop month (I start each food budget around the 25th of the previous month) so it’s good that the first one is low. I think I’ll alternate my shops between having a delivery for convenience and going to Aldi to save a few £££s moving on.

    I’m a bit worried about taking the Christmas decorations down as I’ll have to do it by myself (and no idea how I’m going to get the tree to the recycling centre). Taking the decorations down isn’t the problem, but lugging boxes up and down from the attic. We’ve also got outside lights that I’ll not manage to reach so I may have to ask him to step in and help. He has a ladder due to his work so it takes no time at all for him to do it. It may be a good time to re-organise their storage to make it easier. I usually keep decorations up until the New Year, but I feel that I would love to welcome the New Year with a clean, tidy and clutter free house this year. I may leave it until the weekend though when the boys are with their dad (they're with me Thursday night and all day Friday so Mr S is having them from mid morning Sat to mid afternoon Sunday). Our proper routine will be starting the following weekend.

    I’ve suggested Mr S takes the boys shopping on Thursday before he leaves to pick up some new clothes to keep at his parents’ place. I did initially tell him he could take from here (there is plenty) but he is adamant he needs to buy new. I’m guessing it’s his way of dealing with things. So, I suggested he take them shopping as they may be excited to choose some new bits for their grandparents’ house and it will help slightly with the move.

    He has made zero effort to start packing so I’m not sure when he plans on doing that. I’m hoping it’s not in front of the boys after we tell them as that won’t be the nicest for them. I’m really struggling to work out when to suggest things and when to bite my tongue. I don't want to make things more difficult for him, but I don’t want the boys to suffer any more than necessary. 
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  • savingholmes
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    My DD is 18 but I literally paid her to bubble wrap some pictures and things he was taking. My BIL (married to my sis) had to come and help him move or I don't think he would have gone on time... It's a difficult situation you are in especially when the kids are small. While it's not nice for the kids to watch him move out - it does reduce the confusion. 
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  • When do you intend telling your boys? That must be difficult if no one else in RL knows yet. Do you have supportive parents/siblings?
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  • Please stop worrying about being insensitive, this is a hard time.
    Can the boys help you take down and put away the decorations? Mine were ace at getting everything down for me this year and it made it feel more like a new normal if that makes sense.

    I am guessing for him the hardest step is that first one of opening a bag and starting to pack. He possibly doesn’t want to do it in front of the boys or you.

    I am glad you said that about January. I was looking at my budget planner last night and January just looks to go on and on, which isn’t great financially!

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  • It will be so much easier once he’s gone, but it may come to having to be a bit tactless to get him out. My ex threatened to go, told everyone he was going (including my family before I had!), but still it took 3 weeks of hell to stop him coming back like he lived there. You need him to take his things on the scheduled day to make it easier for everyone. The you can settle to a new routine ⭐️
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