SAR template needed please

Coupon-mad

Leatham said:

Things is @Coupon-mad, surely the judicial system realise these scams. They're just rubber-stamping it. Turning a blind eye 

Yup, and some Judges have woken up and smelt the coffee but not all of them. 

Read what DJ (now HHJ) Jackson has to say about that scam; she gets it:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V Excel v Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

beamerguy

Leatham said:

Things is @Coupon-mad, surely the judicial system realise these scams. They're just rubber-stamping it. Turning a blind eye 

I don't think they turn a blind eye .... it is that some judges are very ignorant and are not fit for purpose. We see some judges who are just plain stupid, just because they are a judge does not mean they are intelligent ?

BUT, it is the system that is not fit for purpose, allowing scam robo claims. This alone is a major flaw in the legal system and Robert Buckland MP, the so called Justice Secretary, should wake his ideas up about the timewasting cases in the county courts.

nosferatu1001

Electronic filing is the real culprit
It means it costs - with the right software - almost zero to file the claim, on top of the filing fee. This means, with templated PoC (which are NOT real, compliant particulars of claim, of course!) the whole process is basically one big amil merge
This means it is financially viable to launch thousands of claims as you know that the vast majority will pay up, a small amount will defend but fail in some other way. They arent stupid, despite what some say. They are unethical, but not stupid. It is highly profitable. 

OP: You need to read about what actually happens in court. 
If you lose, you pay the Invoice amount, plus filing and hearing costs, and IF they used a soliucitor to file the claim, another £50. That £185 amount means they did not pay a solicitor, but added on the unlawul £60 made up amount because theyre greedy barstewards.
So if you had defended, and it wasnt ignoriung a LBC that got you that CCJ but ignoring a claim form - never ignore a claim form! Stupid to do so - and lost, the amount would have bveen £150, but you had a better than evens chance of winning. 

Leatham

@Coupon-mad

You mentioned that I should ask UKPC to consolidate the two PCNs that relate to one car. At what stage would this be?  in the SAR? or if it got to court? 

Thanks in anticipation

Leatham

Can I please get your approval for the email that my daughter is about to send to UKPC:

Dear Sir or Madam

Subject access request ( Data Protection Act 2018 / General Data Protection Regulations)

 

name

address

 

Please supply the data about me that I am entitled to under data protection law relating to myself.

 

This needs to include, but not exhaustive of, any photos, all letters sent to me and received from me, a full copy of PCN and NTK and any PCNs outstanding against me.

 

May I remind you that any claim must be for all PCNs and not separate PCNs in order to minimise costs and time for all parties

 

It may be helpful for you to know that data protection law requires you to respond to a request for data within one calendar month.

If you do not normally deal with these requests, please pass this letter to your Data Protection Officer, or relevant staff member. If you need advice on dealing with this request, the Information Commissioner’s Office can assist you. Its website is ico.org.uk or it can be contacted on 0303 123 1113.

 

Yours faithfully

Coupon-mad

Yes that's fine.  If you then get a LBC that only mentions one PCN then you tell them to consolidate the data for both.  And if you then get a claim that only has one PCN on, you repeat that in your defence, as seen in all the other cases with more than one PCN. 

Searching the forum for the words consolidate Henderson defence would find the wording (but not for SAR stage, your version is fine for a SAR).

Leatham

Thanks @Coupon-mad

I personally also received two Notice of Debt Recovery Letters for a different car of my daughter's in Nov 2015 (as I mentioned in my earlier thread)  because I was the registered keeper. I wasn't driving it. They didn't ask if I was driving it at the time either

Should I also send a SAR to UKPC? or would this serve as an admission I was driving it
I just would like advice on what the best thing to do on these two fines please

KeithP

Leatham said:

I personally also received two Notice of Debt Recovery Letters for a different car of my daughter's in Nov 2015 (as I mentioned in my earlier thread)  because I was the registered keeper. I wasn't driving it. They didn't ask if I was driving it at the time either

Should I also send a SAR to UKPC? or would this serve as an admission I was driving it
I just would like advice on what the best thing to do on these two fines please

Are you now asking questions here about how to deal with issues being progressed on your other thread?

This can only lead to confusion.

Leatham

@KeithP
No, that's progressing nicely thanks. SAR sent

I could raise a new thread but fairly simple question

Leatham

Do I send proof of identity with SAR?