SAR template needed please

Redx

As keeper you may be liable , unless you name the driver

Most PCN s are £100 , not £60 , and should never be more than £100

Want 40% discount for early payment was lost , meaning that usually the full £100 per pcn is the liability , if proven ,

As you were not the driver , the parking company can only win against you if they fully complied with POFA 2012 , otherwise they can go swivel

The driver has no such protection

The statute limit is 6 years under the limitations act of 1980

Coupon-mad

23 and 26 November 2015. Almost 5 years ago

Almost 6 years ago.

How the other CCJ was settled is irrelevant to the live PCNs.  I am amazed it was less than £200 and I think that must be a mis-recollection, I think the gym one cost more like £260 or so to clear that CCJ and she could only do so because she settled it within 30 days of judgment.  But that's all by the by, because there is no CCJ risk if you follow our advice and defend these 'live' ones.

As it is a different car, if all of them involve the same Defendant (you) I would write as keeper to the PPC and their agents (all of them, no phone calls) and if you are the keeper of both cars, tell them to attach the data together as you are a single data subject.  Secondly, that they must consolidate any such PCNs relating to these 2 cars and only issue a single claim to the Defendant, to minimise costs and time for all parties and to avoid a spate of claims which would be an abuse of process.

 So my question is this: if we do get to LBC stage and we were to respond to/challenge  (and I will seek help on next steps on here - seeing as I am deep) would we have to pay the original fine of £60? (which we threw - stop, don't have a go:)) or the full £185?

Neither. 

And don't worry, we are not going to have a go at someone who didn't pay the £60.  We would NEVER have told you to pay the stupid £60, let alone the higher sums! It was not some sort of bargain offer that you missed out on.

You can't pay the £60 because it was a bribe at the beginning, not to appeal, and just to roll over to the scam. 

That kind offer((!) has been and gone (good!  Glad you didn't).

You won't pay £185 because the PCNs were not £185, they were £100.  The template defence covers the arguments against the false added costs, that the Claimant has never actually incurred because the debt recovery impersonators that attach themselves to this lucrative, unregulated industry, operate on a no-win-no-fee basis.  The £185 is a big, fat lie.

All these questions tell us that you really need to read the NEWBIES thread post #2 and the template defence, to see what defending is all about.

1505grandad

Of course, in any correspondence with any entity do not state that they are "fines"  -  they are invoices.

Also do not mention anything as to the identity of the driver.

Leatham

Coupon-mad said:

23 and 26 November 2015. Almost 5 years ago

All these questions tell us that you really need to read the NEWBIES thread post #2 and the template defence, to see what defending is all about.

Believe me, I have read it twice but its hard to take in. So I have decided to digest the bits I need for now, and worry about the next stage if I need to!

Leatham

How the other CCJ was settled is irrelevant to the live PCNs.  I am amazed it was less than £200 and I think that must be a mis-recollection

@Coupon-mad

Coupon-mad

Ah, sorry I take that back, so that would have been £100 parking charge plus the false £60 'costs' that were never incurred, and £25 filing fee.  

All for doing absolutely zero for any consumer or customer, no service, nothing. Shocking industry.

Leatham

Things is @Coupon-mad, surely the judicial system realise these scams. They're just rubber-stamping it. Turning a blind eye 

Leatham

If I'd have taken action when I should, and defended myself, then all I'd have to pay was the £100 parking 'invoice'?

Redx

Leatham said:

Things is @Coupon-mad, surely the judicial system realise these scams. They're just rubber-stamping it. Turning a blind eye 

Which is why the new 2019 bill by Sir Greg Knight will change things from later this year , going forward , because MP,s make the laws

Redx

Leatham said:

If I'd have taken action when I should, and defended myself, then all I'd have to pay was the £100 parking 'invoice'?

Not if you lost in court , they add court and legal fees of up to £100 on top , so a typical loss in court is about £200 for one PCN