DCBL letters ..... forum group thread

D_P_Dance

That is a debt collectors letter, ignore   They have added an unlawful £60, read this,

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V Excel v Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

bbtv

Umkomaas said:

UKPC seemed to have farmed out a share of their unpaid parking tickets to at least two debt collectors - DCB Limited and CST Law - just another ratcheting up of the debt collector harassment. We have yet to see any go as far as a court case. In any case, until shown to be otherwise, the only lawyers that UKPC use to pursue on their behalf at court is SCS Law. So come back on a new thread if you receive a formal 'Letter Before Claim' from any solicitor (particularly SCS) or a N1 claim letter from the Northampton CCBC. Please read the NEWBIES FAQ sticky, fourth post, which tells you all you need to know about how to deal with debt collectors - it's not very long!

So I sent off a SAR to UKPC to see what they have. They have replied and in their correspondence there is a response to an appeal i made dated, March 2018 but I never received a copy of this letter 💯 and I haven't moved address and there was no email correspondence from them. 
Also where they ticketed the vehicle is not their property, it's on a public road on yellow lines which is in front of an unused warehouse which is their property but I am about 20 feet away from their gate. I actually asked work men where their property starts and its before where the car was. So where do i stand on this? Its UKPC. 

bbtv

Sorry i forgot to say and can't edit so I wanted to say as i never got their response to my email i never had a chance to do a Popla so is that avenue over? Who should i go back to over this to appeal? 

Coupon-mad

That avenue is over but a complaint to the landowner is always recommended.

Snakes_Belly

Walton Wilkins trading as Premier Parking Logistics uses this company to collect debts. They operate around the Birmingham area.

Recently there has been at least three discontinuences by DCBL at the request of PPL. 

PPL's car parks are very often in a shocking state with graffiti over signage, potholes (which when it rains fill with water so the driver cannot see the white lines) and faulty ticket machines. The white lines are not all the same width either.

It is not difficult with good images to beat this company but they currently seem to be pulling out before the hearing. 
 

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Snakes_Belly said:

Walton Wilkins trading as Premier Parking Logistics uses this company to collect debts. They operate around the Birmingham area.

Recently there has been at least three discontinuences by DCBL at the request of PPL.....

..... but they currently seem to be pulling out before the hearing. 
 

This is exactly what just happened in my wife's case.  We had a court date of early July and the defence had to be filed this week.  Also, and perhaps more significantly, the court fees had to be paid by the claimant. 

DCBL tried calling my wife several times last week, leaving messages asking her to contact them, all of which were ignored. 

Lo and behold, an email arrived yesterday advising that "our client has instructed us to discontinue court proceedings and close our file".  We're still awaiting official confirmation from the court, but it looks like a good outcome from our point of view

beamerguy

I do get the feeling that "Walton Wilkins" will no longer be a feature of this forum.   

D_P_Dance

They have wasted your time, now waste theirs, read this,

https://www.citizensadvice.org.uk/law-and-courts/legal-system/small-claims/making-a-small-claim/

Covid_Vaccinator

An incredibly helpful judgement!

D_P_Dance said:

That is a debt collectors letter, ignore   They have added an unlawful £60, read this,

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V Excel v Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

Umkomaas

Covid_Vaccinator said:

An incredibly helpful judgement!

D_P_Dance said:

That is a debt collectors letter, ignore   They have added an unlawful £60, read this,

Excel v Wilkinson

At the Bradford County Court, District Judge Claire Jackson (now HHJ Jackson, a Specialist Civil Circuit Judge) decided to hear a 'test case' a few months ago, where £60 had been added to a parking charge despite Judges up and down the country repeatedly disallowing that sum and warning parking firms not to waste court time with such spurious claims.   That case was Excel v Wilkinson: G4QZ465V, heard in July 2020 and leave to appeal was refused and that route was not pursued.  The Judge concluded that such claims are proceedings with 'an improper collateral purpose'.   This Judge - and others who have since copied her words and struck dozens of cases out in late 2020 and into 2021 - went into significant detail and concluded that parking operators (such as this Claimant) are seeking to circumvent CPR 27.14 as well as breaching the Consumer Rights Act 2015.   DJ Hickinbottom has recently struck more cases out in that court area, stating: ''I find that striking out this claim is the only appropriate manner in which the disapproval of the court can be shown''.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/16qovzulab1szem/G4QZ465V Excel v Wilkinson.pdf?dl=0

Be aware that this is neither persuasive nor precedent setting. It is a but a finding at a small claims court in Yorkshire. That the judiciary in that neck of the woods are following the judgment and dismissing cases as an 'abuse of process' based on 'double recovery' is not something other courts will be required to, nor necessarily follow. This is not a 'Beavis'. 

The fact that DDJ Claire Jackson is now HHJ Claire Jackson does add weight, but insufficient to make any groundbreaking impact.