PPC chasing old invoices

fueboy

I asked for requests between 01/01/2015 and 11/07/2017 (sale of vehicle).

PCNs are dated 2016 and Feb 2017.

wannadancewithsomebody

ok 2 questions for you 
the dvla have stated that dart crossing were only people to ask for info for that vehicle , what dates were those requests do they correspond with dates on the sar 
secondly , your SAR , why is Capital Carpark Control LTD supplying info for a now defunkt one man trader that is no longer registered with the BPA have the charges been assigned to the second company? 

fueboy

I got a letter from DartCharge and as it was my first offence, they made me pay the original crossing fee only with no charges. That was October 2016


CCPC are from late 2016 - early 2017.

As for your second question - I don't know 😶

wannadancewithsomebody

you made it sound like there were multiple dart charges 
ok , if we accept that they are telling lies regarding DVLA , (why were the dvla responses not shown in the sar?) 
is it possible that right at the beginning of this saga you got a ticket on your car and kicked off with  management company , who (you say) cancelled ticket(s) upto that point , and unwittingly gave the one man band your full details inc shoe size , from there they did not need to pay DVLA £2.50 a go 
perhaps a letter/email back to the ltd company , stating that documentation (replies) from the DVLA fall under the remit of a SAR , and could you have copies of each and every reply from the dvla 

question Two , perhaps you need to know , perhaps you should ask the dvla and the BPA , if sole trader who exists no longer can assign parking charges to a seperate company , expect huge cover up , but hum MIL , MIL MIL as you type the letters 

Uptown_Boy

wannadancewithsomebody said:

you made it sound like there were multiple dart charges 
ok , if we accept that they are telling lies regarding DVLA , (why were the dvla responses not shown in the sar?) 
is it possible that right at the beginning of this saga you got a ticket on your car and kicked off with  management company , who (you say) cancelled ticket(s) upto that point , and unwittingly gave the one man band your full details inc shoe size , from there they did not need to pay DVLA £2.50 a go 
perhaps a letter/email back to the ltd company , stating that documentation (replies) from the DVLA fall under the remit of a SAR , and could you have copies of each and every reply from the dvla 

question Two , perhaps you need to know , perhaps you should ask the dvla and the BPA , if sole trader who exists no longer can assign parking charges to a seperate company , expect huge cover up , but hum MIL , MIL MIL as you type the letters 

Translated as ... from there they chose to break the law, as the ONLY way a vehicle's RK can be held liable is if the PPC obtain the RK details from the DVLA. In fact, to obtain the details in a different way and use them for another purpose is a significant breach of the DPA/GDPR and the impacted person could sue the PPC on that basis.

wannadancewithsomebody

the sar the LTD company sent states 5 or 6 times that data was obtained each time from the DVLA , they MUST include scans / copies of every message from the DVLA regarding you and any vehicle registed to you 

give them one more ask , if they fail to respond then a: they are telling lies regarding getting data from dvla , or b: they are failing to include this info in the sar and they need reporting to , is it ico ?
this can also be mentioned to the BPA , how there member (ltd co) have failed , and also the fact that <sole trader> has assigned claims to <ltd company> who have then instructed another BPA member (dcbl) to harrass you
you realy need to start hitting home and hope that the DVLA , BPA or ICO , jump in and swat this little flea 

Uptown_Boy

BTW ... sole trader can't assign alleged debts to LTD company without first notifying the debtor of the deeds of assignment (or something like that).

wannadancewithsomebody

lot worse than that "first notifying the debtor of the deeds of assignment " , not under POFa2012 , DVLA rules and BPA code of conduct totally do not allow this 
I threw hints in a post further up saying "mil" and hoping regulars would jump in and clarify , as its a funny one with a ex has been no longer bpa member , who has grown up to a ltd company 

remember at the times of the tickets , the ltd company did not exist , , (so round in circles) the cases must have been given/handed over / sold or otherwise to the ltd company 

Uptown_Boy

MIL were on the hook because the debts weren't formally assigned. If the proper procedure had been followed then they probably would have been OK. I don't believe DVLA rules or POFA prevent proper deeds of assignment.

PS - I hope you're feline OK?

wannadancewithsomebody

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