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Land_Registry said:HWBY said:Land_Registry said:HWBY said:We're struggling to understand the hold-up with the property we're trying to buy. Our solicitor told us today that:"the Restriction noted at B4 of the Title has been requested to be removed from the Land Registry as the Sellers' Solicitors could not provide the relevant information for this to be dealt with. This is still being dealt with by the Land Registry and even though they are chasing they do not have a date for when the title will be updated."
The restriction noted at B4 is:
B4 (16.12.2015) RESTRICTION: No disposition of the registered estate (other than a charge) by the proprietor of the registered estate or by the proprietor of any registered charge, not being a charge registered before the entry of this restriction, is to be registered without a certificate signed by a conveyancer that the provisions of Clause 2.2 and Clause 3.1 of an Overage Deed dated 30 November 2015 made between (1) [Prior landowner], (2) [Developer] and (3) [Director of Developer] have been complied with or that they do not apply to the disposition.We were told that our vendors' solicitor had made the request to have it removed on the 4th July. Our solicitor just shrugs her shoulders when we ask how long we can expect this to take. We were initially meant to complete in May and have a deadline of September to move for a new job, so this is proving to be very frustrating. I ended up crying in the office toilets today!
Can anyone help me with a general timeframe for this sort of thing? Are we talking weeks or months?
Impossible to be definitive re timescales without specifics. How it’s been ‘chased’ and the restriction wording aren’t enough detail on their own but if you can confirm the title number we might be able to answer your QSo lodged 4th May. Expedited, although perhaps only last week. Now processed and the wider checks started.
As things stand those checks may not complete until 17th/18th Aug which should be in time for your work deadline hopefully.The main risk of course is if those checks reveal any issues. It seems unlikely but we don’t know hence the checks being made.Please don’t ask for more details re checks as these are in part to prevent the fraudulent removal of such entries so the details provided are the best we can do.Hopefully that helps and if things finish sooner your conveyancer will know.If you want to make a note to reply again on 17th/18th then we can check again0 -
Off the back of my previous question, please may I also check the status/any updates you can see on my title deed? CB361321? Many thanks in advance @Land_Registry - really appreciate your response so far.0
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Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Hi,
Looking for some help. My land registry ref number is EA88FD3.
I offered on a shared ownership property back in February, the searches came back in May and flagged up issues with land registry titles.
The application was successfully expedited in Feb. I was told that there were 3 outstanding requisitions to be resolved by the lodging solicitors before it could proceed. I’ve gone back and fourth for months trying to get the solicitors to resolve these 3 points.
This has finally been done however I’m now being told that the titles still can’t be done because of 12 - 18 months backlogs!? i thought that because it was expedited it could be done ahead, but apparently not?
I want to know exactly what the issue is and why the titles can’t be done?
Additionally, I have asked my solicitor to compete without the full titles (based on the uncertain time frame) however I’m being told this is not an option?
Thanks for your help
Also have the title numbers -
DY561107 (New Title)DY531957 (Parent Title)
Or customer referenceGTAL01/039775.00445(P44)
If you manage to find it, I’d also like to know when the 12 - 18 months time frame starts. For example is it from the date I offered on the property?
Thanks
The reason it can’t be completed yet by us is that there are prior applications against the developer’s title that affect and need to be completed first.The solicitor has recently been advised of this so should be able to share/explain in more detail for you12 - 18 months came from land registry yourselves when I called up. Although I’ve called again today and they did say that this is generalised time frame and unlikely to be this long with expedited cases.
I’m aware that there are 2 pieces of work that need to be done before mine can be completed. However nobody is able to give me a time frame when this will be done. Without a time frame it’s looking like I’m going to have a pull out of the sale.
Is there absolutely no way of getting this through quicker? Can the case worker push for the other work to be done?ThanksThe conveyancer involved in the sale is better placed to push as appropriate as fellow conveyancing firm involved. Whether they can and will though is up to them.We will remind/chase after a set time only as that’s very much part of the registration process
As far as I’m aware the lodging solicitors have responded to everything land reg has requested and the delay now lies with land reg?There’s ‘prior applications and other pieces of work ahead of mine that need to be done first apparently so what I’m asking is surely the caseworker will have a rough estimate when this work may be completed?Without been given a time frame from land reg I’m going to lose the house which seems completely ridiculous.Is it possible to get this escalated to a manager?Thanks
There are 60+ applications pending and with priority ahead of your own expedited application. Your conveyancer has been advised (last week) re the current hold up
The conveyancer who lodged the application which appears to be the main blocker was contacted on the 19th July and we await their response.I totally understand the ridiculous nature of the situation re timescales involved but it looks as if we are very much up to date with this development but reliant on the conveyancers to resolve specific issues before all the plot sales can start to fall like dominoes. Unfortunately that can happen when applications are incomplete
As you have contacted us direct you can reply using that channel escalate matters but I’m afraid there will be nothing we can do at this stage as the conveyancers will need time to resolve matters.
So it’s currently waiting on other conveyancers to work on other applications before mine can be done? Even though mines expedited?
Im now in the position where my mortgage offer expires in 2 weeks and I'm about to lose the house. This as you can imagine is causing extreme stress and financial worries.Spoke to the phone team and they’ve escalated it through to your complaints team but sounds like it still won’t be done despite the circumstances.
eg if there is a register of a number of leases against a freehold or similar cases, then the LR processes them in order of receipt understandably. One that is number say 5 in the queue gets expedited due to an onward sale. Effectively numbers 1 -4 also get expediated as they have to be processed first. If there is a problem with the paperwork for any one or more of numbers 1 to 4, the LR will write to them to sort it out, and give them a few weeks to reply. The problem comes as the people at number 1-4 in the queue aren't in any rush as they don't have an onward sale, so they take their time or don't respond. In the mean time everything is on hold waiting for the non-urgent problem to be resolved or weeks for a non response to set it aside.
So it is a compounded problem brought about by:
a) some cases not having the correct paperwork
b) these cases not responding quickly to be chased
that impacts on urgent cases.
The LR expediting process means that these cases are getting looked at, but it all takes time.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.0 -
silvercar said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Hi,
Looking for some help. My land registry ref number is EA88FD3.
I offered on a shared ownership property back in February, the searches came back in May and flagged up issues with land registry titles.
The application was successfully expedited in Feb. I was told that there were 3 outstanding requisitions to be resolved by the lodging solicitors before it could proceed. I’ve gone back and fourth for months trying to get the solicitors to resolve these 3 points.
This has finally been done however I’m now being told that the titles still can’t be done because of 12 - 18 months backlogs!? i thought that because it was expedited it could be done ahead, but apparently not?
I want to know exactly what the issue is and why the titles can’t be done?
Additionally, I have asked my solicitor to compete without the full titles (based on the uncertain time frame) however I’m being told this is not an option?
Thanks for your help
Also have the title numbers -
DY561107 (New Title)DY531957 (Parent Title)
Or customer referenceGTAL01/039775.00445(P44)
If you manage to find it, I’d also like to know when the 12 - 18 months time frame starts. For example is it from the date I offered on the property?
Thanks
The reason it can’t be completed yet by us is that there are prior applications against the developer’s title that affect and need to be completed first.The solicitor has recently been advised of this so should be able to share/explain in more detail for you12 - 18 months came from land registry yourselves when I called up. Although I’ve called again today and they did say that this is generalised time frame and unlikely to be this long with expedited cases.
I’m aware that there are 2 pieces of work that need to be done before mine can be completed. However nobody is able to give me a time frame when this will be done. Without a time frame it’s looking like I’m going to have a pull out of the sale.
Is there absolutely no way of getting this through quicker? Can the case worker push for the other work to be done?ThanksThe conveyancer involved in the sale is better placed to push as appropriate as fellow conveyancing firm involved. Whether they can and will though is up to them.We will remind/chase after a set time only as that’s very much part of the registration process
As far as I’m aware the lodging solicitors have responded to everything land reg has requested and the delay now lies with land reg?There’s ‘prior applications and other pieces of work ahead of mine that need to be done first apparently so what I’m asking is surely the caseworker will have a rough estimate when this work may be completed?Without been given a time frame from land reg I’m going to lose the house which seems completely ridiculous.Is it possible to get this escalated to a manager?Thanks
There are 60+ applications pending and with priority ahead of your own expedited application. Your conveyancer has been advised (last week) re the current hold up
The conveyancer who lodged the application which appears to be the main blocker was contacted on the 19th July and we await their response.I totally understand the ridiculous nature of the situation re timescales involved but it looks as if we are very much up to date with this development but reliant on the conveyancers to resolve specific issues before all the plot sales can start to fall like dominoes. Unfortunately that can happen when applications are incomplete
As you have contacted us direct you can reply using that channel escalate matters but I’m afraid there will be nothing we can do at this stage as the conveyancers will need time to resolve matters.
So it’s currently waiting on other conveyancers to work on other applications before mine can be done? Even though mines expedited?
Im now in the position where my mortgage offer expires in 2 weeks and I'm about to lose the house. This as you can imagine is causing extreme stress and financial worries.Spoke to the phone team and they’ve escalated it through to your complaints team but sounds like it still won’t be done despite the circumstances.
eg if there is a register of a number of leases against a freehold or similar cases, then the LR processes them in order of receipt understandably. One that is number say 5 in the queue gets expedited due to an onward sale. Effectively numbers 1 -4 also get expediated as they have to be processed first. If there is a problem with the paperwork for any one or more of numbers 1 to 4, the LR will write to them to sort it out, and give them a few weeks to reply. The problem comes as the people at number 1-4 in the queue aren't in any rush as they don't have an onward sale, so they take their time or don't respond. In the mean time everything is on hold waiting for the non-urgent problem to be resolved or weeks for a non response to set it aside.
So it is a compounded problem brought about by:
a) some cases not having the correct paperwork
b) these cases not responding quickly to be chased
that impacts on urgent cases.
The LR expediting process means that these cases are getting looked at, but it all takes time.You have explained this way better than anyone else has to me so far. It seems such a backwards way of working!Mines is 63 in the que with some ahead that have been done but a considerable amount outstanding.It’s very frustrating but seems to be totally out of land registry’s hands if they’re waiting on conveyancers to reply.How long are you into the process with your property?0 -
woodpeckerx said:Melcooling1 said:woodpeckerx said:user1977 said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Hi,
Looking for some help. My land registry ref number is EA88FD3.
I offered on a shared ownership property back in February, the searches came back in May and flagged up issues with land registry titles.
The application was successfully expedited in Feb. I was told that there were 3 outstanding requisitions to be resolved by the lodging solicitors before it could proceed. I’ve gone back and fourth for months trying to get the solicitors to resolve these 3 points.
This has finally been done however I’m now being told that the titles still can’t be done because of 12 - 18 months backlogs!? i thought that because it was expedited it could be done ahead, but apparently not?
I want to know exactly what the issue is and why the titles can’t be done?
Additionally, I have asked my solicitor to compete without the full titles (based on the uncertain time frame) however I’m being told this is not an option?
Thanks for your help
Also have the title numbers -
DY561107 (New Title)DY531957 (Parent Title)
Or customer referenceGTAL01/039775.00445(P44)
If you manage to find it, I’d also like to know when the 12 - 18 months time frame starts. For example is it from the date I offered on the property?
Thanks
The reason it can’t be completed yet by us is that there are prior applications against the developer’s title that affect and need to be completed first.The solicitor has recently been advised of this so should be able to share/explain in more detail for you12 - 18 months came from land registry yourselves when I called up. Although I’ve called again today and they did say that this is generalised time frame and unlikely to be this long with expedited cases.
I’m aware that there are 2 pieces of work that need to be done before mine can be completed. However nobody is able to give me a time frame when this will be done. Without a time frame it’s looking like I’m going to have a pull out of the sale.
Is there absolutely no way of getting this through quicker? Can the case worker push for the other work to be done?ThanksThe conveyancer involved in the sale is better placed to push as appropriate as fellow conveyancing firm involved. Whether they can and will though is up to them.We will remind/chase after a set time only as that’s very much part of the registration process
As far as I’m aware the lodging solicitors have responded to everything land reg has requested and the delay now lies with land reg?There’s ‘prior applications and other pieces of work ahead of mine that need to be done first apparently so what I’m asking is surely the caseworker will have a rough estimate when this work may be completed?Without been given a time frame from land reg I’m going to lose the house which seems completely ridiculous.Is it possible to get this escalated to a manager?Thanks
There are 60+ applications pending and with priority ahead of your own expedited application. Your conveyancer has been advised (last week) re the current hold up
The conveyancer who lodged the application which appears to be the main blocker was contacted on the 19th July and we await their response.I totally understand the ridiculous nature of the situation re timescales involved but it looks as if we are very much up to date with this development but reliant on the conveyancers to resolve specific issues before all the plot sales can start to fall like dominoes. Unfortunately that can happen when applications are incomplete
As you have contacted us direct you can reply using that channel escalate matters but I’m afraid there will be nothing we can do at this stage as the conveyancers will need time to resolve matters.Spoke to the phone team and they’ve escalated it through to your complaints team .Not sure exactly where else I need to be addressing my complaint too?Yes it may be down to the conveyencers in question, but I’ve been given no explicit detail of how many or what is holding mine up etc. Time frames I understand is impossible to give but a further explanation other than ‘prior applications are holding it up’ would be helpful when you’re on the verge of losing the house, losing money etc.0 -
Melcooling1 said:silvercar said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Land_Registry said:Melcooling1 said:Hi,
Looking for some help. My land registry ref number is EA88FD3.
I offered on a shared ownership property back in February, the searches came back in May and flagged up issues with land registry titles.
The application was successfully expedited in Feb. I was told that there were 3 outstanding requisitions to be resolved by the lodging solicitors before it could proceed. I’ve gone back and fourth for months trying to get the solicitors to resolve these 3 points.
This has finally been done however I’m now being told that the titles still can’t be done because of 12 - 18 months backlogs!? i thought that because it was expedited it could be done ahead, but apparently not?
I want to know exactly what the issue is and why the titles can’t be done?
Additionally, I have asked my solicitor to compete without the full titles (based on the uncertain time frame) however I’m being told this is not an option?
Thanks for your help
Also have the title numbers -
DY561107 (New Title)DY531957 (Parent Title)
Or customer referenceGTAL01/039775.00445(P44)
If you manage to find it, I’d also like to know when the 12 - 18 months time frame starts. For example is it from the date I offered on the property?
Thanks
The reason it can’t be completed yet by us is that there are prior applications against the developer’s title that affect and need to be completed first.The solicitor has recently been advised of this so should be able to share/explain in more detail for you12 - 18 months came from land registry yourselves when I called up. Although I’ve called again today and they did say that this is generalised time frame and unlikely to be this long with expedited cases.
I’m aware that there are 2 pieces of work that need to be done before mine can be completed. However nobody is able to give me a time frame when this will be done. Without a time frame it’s looking like I’m going to have a pull out of the sale.
Is there absolutely no way of getting this through quicker? Can the case worker push for the other work to be done?ThanksThe conveyancer involved in the sale is better placed to push as appropriate as fellow conveyancing firm involved. Whether they can and will though is up to them.We will remind/chase after a set time only as that’s very much part of the registration process
As far as I’m aware the lodging solicitors have responded to everything land reg has requested and the delay now lies with land reg?There’s ‘prior applications and other pieces of work ahead of mine that need to be done first apparently so what I’m asking is surely the caseworker will have a rough estimate when this work may be completed?Without been given a time frame from land reg I’m going to lose the house which seems completely ridiculous.Is it possible to get this escalated to a manager?Thanks
There are 60+ applications pending and with priority ahead of your own expedited application. Your conveyancer has been advised (last week) re the current hold up
The conveyancer who lodged the application which appears to be the main blocker was contacted on the 19th July and we await their response.I totally understand the ridiculous nature of the situation re timescales involved but it looks as if we are very much up to date with this development but reliant on the conveyancers to resolve specific issues before all the plot sales can start to fall like dominoes. Unfortunately that can happen when applications are incomplete
As you have contacted us direct you can reply using that channel escalate matters but I’m afraid there will be nothing we can do at this stage as the conveyancers will need time to resolve matters.
So it’s currently waiting on other conveyancers to work on other applications before mine can be done? Even though mines expedited?
Im now in the position where my mortgage offer expires in 2 weeks and I'm about to lose the house. This as you can imagine is causing extreme stress and financial worries.Spoke to the phone team and they’ve escalated it through to your complaints team but sounds like it still won’t be done despite the circumstances.
eg if there is a register of a number of leases against a freehold or similar cases, then the LR processes them in order of receipt understandably. One that is number say 5 in the queue gets expedited due to an onward sale. Effectively numbers 1 -4 also get expediated as they have to be processed first. If there is a problem with the paperwork for any one or more of numbers 1 to 4, the LR will write to them to sort it out, and give them a few weeks to reply. The problem comes as the people at number 1-4 in the queue aren't in any rush as they don't have an onward sale, so they take their time or don't respond. In the mean time everything is on hold waiting for the non-urgent problem to be resolved or weeks for a non response to set it aside.
So it is a compounded problem brought about by:
a) some cases not having the correct paperwork
b) these cases not responding quickly to be chased
that impacts on urgent cases.
The LR expediting process means that these cases are getting looked at, but it all takes time.You have explained this way better than anyone else has to me so far. It seems such a backwards way of working!Mines is 63 in the que with some ahead that have been done but a considerable amount outstanding.It’s very frustrating but seems to be totally out of land registry’s hands if they’re waiting on conveyancers to reply.How long are you into the process with your property?
Our solicitor explained that we can’t exchange without it as the current flat lease will be withdrawn and a new one to include the car park space drawn up. (I was hoping we could exchange on the flat and then sort the car park space later with indemnities etc).
This new leasehold needs to be registered on the freehold and so forms a queue behind other similar cases that were applied for first. One (hopefully only one) of these prior cases had incorrect paperwork so the LR dealt with that by giving that case a few weeks to respond while we all sat getting more and more frustrated. Not LR fault that this other case had wrong paperwork, but it means a delay.
I would also blame the seller for not having ensured the parking space was registered to the lease, but without them selling there wouldn’t have been any expediting and so the priority cases before this one may not have been under any pressure to resolve their paperwork. Just an unfortunate series of events.I'm a Forum Ambassador on the housing, mortgages & student money saving boards. I volunteer to help get your forum questions answered and keep the forum running smoothly. Forum Ambassadors are not moderators and don't read every post. If you spot an illegal or inappropriate post then please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com (it's not part of my role to deal with this). Any views are mine and not the official line of MoneySavingExpert.com.1 -
HomeBuyer22 said:Off the back of my previous question, please may I also check the status/any updates you can see on my title deed? CB361321? Many thanks in advance @Land_Registry - really appreciate your response so far.“Official Company Representative
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Land_Registry said:HomeBuyer22 said:Off the back of my previous question, please may I also check the status/any updates you can see on my title deed? CB361321? Many thanks in advance @Land_Registry - really appreciate your response so far.0
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Wonder if somebody could help please?We sold our house in March and going through the process of conveyancing! We are hopefully nearly at the end but, have one final enquiry to resolve.The final enquiry is about a small
strip of land that has been bought by our local council at some point in the past. This is between our front garden and the road. The block of four terrace all have this same arrangement with each strip in front of each house having its own boundary / title number. The deed for this strip clearly says we have full right of way over it (you couldn’t get into the house if not!).The buyers solicitor are asking why this strip of land has its own title, why it was bought and when.Can you provide this information or any advice of who can?Our title number is GM143158
strip if land GM207542Thank you for your help and sticking with the long post!0 -
I completed on a flat purchase at the beginning of February but now six months on I still don't have the deeds (lease and update to freehold to reflect change in tenant in common). I understand that processing has recently taken up to five or six months for change in title ownership, so I should expect to receive the deeds imminently?0
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