Land Registry questions

Land_Registry

Sallybg said:

@Land_Registry thank you for the advice

With expedition what is the current approximate timings for merging/surrendering? And without expedition?

Expedition reduces the wait time from 4-5 months to generally under 2 weeks. 

Once the wait is over and processing starts it’s all about everything being in order as to how quick the registers are updated 

g7lla

@Land_Registry, could you please advise how long it's taking to process a first registration please with and without the case being expedited? Just going through the legals after having an offer accepted and found out the house isn't registered. Our mortgage offer expires end of September - if the case is expeditated are we likely to have the FR sorted by then?

Thanks!

Melcooling1

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Hi,

Looking for some help. My land registry ref number is EA88FD3.

I offered on a shared ownership property back in February, the searches came back in May and flagged up issues with land registry titles.

The application was successfully expedited in Feb. I was told that there were 3 outstanding requisitions to be resolved by the lodging solicitors before it could proceed. I’ve gone back and fourth for months trying to get the solicitors to resolve these 3 points. 

This has finally been done however I’m now being told that the titles still can’t be done because of 12 - 18 months backlogs!? i thought that because it was expedited it could be done ahead, but apparently not? 

I want to know exactly what the issue is and why the titles can’t be done?

Additionally, I have asked my solicitor to compete without the full titles (based on the uncertain time frame) however I’m being told this is not an option? 

Thanks for your help

Can you confirm the reference please as that one is unrecognised 

Hey, just double checked and EA88FD3 is the correct ref number and is found under this when I call up. 

Also have the title numbers -
 DY561107 (New Title)

DY531957 (Parent Title)

Or customer reference 

GTAL01/039775.00445(P44)

If you manage to find it, I’d also like to know when the 12 - 18 months time frame starts. For example is it from the date I offered on the property? 


Thanks  

Ok - so lodged 18 Feb and it’s been expedited. Unsure where 12-18 months comes from but if from your solicitor then I’d imagine from completion (January)
The reason it can’t be completed yet by us is that there are prior applications against the developer’s title that affect and need to be completed first. 

The solicitor has recently been advised of this so should be able to share/explain in more detail for you 

Hi thanks for your quick reply. 

12 - 18 months came from land registry yourselves when I called up. Although I’ve called again today and they did say that this is generalised time frame and unlikely to be this long with expedited cases.

I’m aware that there are 2 pieces of work that need to be done before mine can be completed. However nobody is able to give me a time frame when this will be done. Without a time frame it’s looking like I’m going to have a pull out of the sale. 

Is there absolutely no way of getting this through quicker? Can the case worker push for the other work to be done? 

Thanks 

We do push but the ball is very much in the applicants court re timescales as until they reply we can’t proceed in each case. 

The conveyancer involved in the sale is better placed to push as appropriate as fellow conveyancing firm involved. Whether they can and will though is up to them. 

We will remind/chase after a set time only as that’s very much part of the registration process 

Sorry bit confused with this reply.

As far as I’m aware the lodging solicitors have responded to everything land reg has requested and the delay now lies with land reg? 

There’s ‘prior applications and other pieces of work ahead of mine that need to be done first apparently so what I’m asking is surely the caseworker will have a rough estimate when this work may be completed? 

Without been given a time frame from land reg I’m going to lose the house which seems completely ridiculous. 

Is it possible to get this escalated to a manager? 

Thanks 

There are a large number of prior applications pending against the seller’s title most of which have been submitted by a variety of conveyancers. You refer to just one but there are many.
There are 60+ applications pending and with priority ahead of your own expedited application. Your conveyancer has been advised (last week) re the current hold up
The conveyancer who lodged the application which appears to be the main blocker was contacted on the 19th July and we await their response. 

I totally understand the ridiculous nature of the situation re timescales involved but it looks as if we are very much up to date with this development but reliant on the conveyancers to resolve specific issues before all the plot sales can start to fall like dominoes. Unfortunately that can happen when applications are incomplete
As you have contacted us direct you can reply using that channel escalate matters but I’m afraid there will be nothing we can do at this stage as the conveyancers will need time to resolve matters. 

Thanks for your reply.

So it’s currently waiting on other conveyancers to work on other applications before mine can be done? Even though mines expedited?

Im now in the position where my mortgage offer expires in 2 weeks and I'm about to lose the house. This as you can imagine is causing extreme stress and financial worries. 

Spoke to the phone team and they’ve escalated it through to your complaints team but sounds like it still won’t be done despite the circumstances. 

user1977

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Hi,

Looking for some help. My land registry ref number is EA88FD3.

I offered on a shared ownership property back in February, the searches came back in May and flagged up issues with land registry titles.

The application was successfully expedited in Feb. I was told that there were 3 outstanding requisitions to be resolved by the lodging solicitors before it could proceed. I’ve gone back and fourth for months trying to get the solicitors to resolve these 3 points. 

This has finally been done however I’m now being told that the titles still can’t be done because of 12 - 18 months backlogs!? i thought that because it was expedited it could be done ahead, but apparently not? 

I want to know exactly what the issue is and why the titles can’t be done?

Additionally, I have asked my solicitor to compete without the full titles (based on the uncertain time frame) however I’m being told this is not an option? 

Thanks for your help

Can you confirm the reference please as that one is unrecognised 

Hey, just double checked and EA88FD3 is the correct ref number and is found under this when I call up. 

Also have the title numbers -
 DY561107 (New Title)

DY531957 (Parent Title)

Or customer reference 

GTAL01/039775.00445(P44)

If you manage to find it, I’d also like to know when the 12 - 18 months time frame starts. For example is it from the date I offered on the property? 


Thanks  

Ok - so lodged 18 Feb and it’s been expedited. Unsure where 12-18 months comes from but if from your solicitor then I’d imagine from completion (January)
The reason it can’t be completed yet by us is that there are prior applications against the developer’s title that affect and need to be completed first. 

The solicitor has recently been advised of this so should be able to share/explain in more detail for you 

Hi thanks for your quick reply. 

12 - 18 months came from land registry yourselves when I called up. Although I’ve called again today and they did say that this is generalised time frame and unlikely to be this long with expedited cases.

I’m aware that there are 2 pieces of work that need to be done before mine can be completed. However nobody is able to give me a time frame when this will be done. Without a time frame it’s looking like I’m going to have a pull out of the sale. 

Is there absolutely no way of getting this through quicker? Can the case worker push for the other work to be done? 

Thanks 

We do push but the ball is very much in the applicants court re timescales as until they reply we can’t proceed in each case. 

The conveyancer involved in the sale is better placed to push as appropriate as fellow conveyancing firm involved. Whether they can and will though is up to them. 

We will remind/chase after a set time only as that’s very much part of the registration process 

Sorry bit confused with this reply.

As far as I’m aware the lodging solicitors have responded to everything land reg has requested and the delay now lies with land reg? 

There’s ‘prior applications and other pieces of work ahead of mine that need to be done first apparently so what I’m asking is surely the caseworker will have a rough estimate when this work may be completed? 

Without been given a time frame from land reg I’m going to lose the house which seems completely ridiculous. 

Is it possible to get this escalated to a manager? 

Thanks 

There are a large number of prior applications pending against the seller’s title most of which have been submitted by a variety of conveyancers. You refer to just one but there are many.
There are 60+ applications pending and with priority ahead of your own expedited application. Your conveyancer has been advised (last week) re the current hold up
The conveyancer who lodged the application which appears to be the main blocker was contacted on the 19th July and we await their response. 

I totally understand the ridiculous nature of the situation re timescales involved but it looks as if we are very much up to date with this development but reliant on the conveyancers to resolve specific issues before all the plot sales can start to fall like dominoes. Unfortunately that can happen when applications are incomplete
As you have contacted us direct you can reply using that channel escalate matters but I’m afraid there will be nothing we can do at this stage as the conveyancers will need time to resolve matters. 

Spoke to the phone team and they’ve escalated it through to your complaints team . 

I don't see what grounds you have for complaint against the LR. I'm sure your solicitor can explain the position if you don't understand or believe the LR rep's explanation.

Melcooling1

user1977 said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Hi,

Looking for some help. My land registry ref number is EA88FD3.

I offered on a shared ownership property back in February, the searches came back in May and flagged up issues with land registry titles.

The application was successfully expedited in Feb. I was told that there were 3 outstanding requisitions to be resolved by the lodging solicitors before it could proceed. I’ve gone back and fourth for months trying to get the solicitors to resolve these 3 points. 

This has finally been done however I’m now being told that the titles still can’t be done because of 12 - 18 months backlogs!? i thought that because it was expedited it could be done ahead, but apparently not? 

I want to know exactly what the issue is and why the titles can’t be done?

Additionally, I have asked my solicitor to compete without the full titles (based on the uncertain time frame) however I’m being told this is not an option? 

Thanks for your help

Can you confirm the reference please as that one is unrecognised 

Hey, just double checked and EA88FD3 is the correct ref number and is found under this when I call up. 

Also have the title numbers -
 DY561107 (New Title)

DY531957 (Parent Title)

Or customer reference 

GTAL01/039775.00445(P44)

If you manage to find it, I’d also like to know when the 12 - 18 months time frame starts. For example is it from the date I offered on the property? 


Thanks  

Ok - so lodged 18 Feb and it’s been expedited. Unsure where 12-18 months comes from but if from your solicitor then I’d imagine from completion (January)
The reason it can’t be completed yet by us is that there are prior applications against the developer’s title that affect and need to be completed first. 

The solicitor has recently been advised of this so should be able to share/explain in more detail for you 

Hi thanks for your quick reply. 

12 - 18 months came from land registry yourselves when I called up. Although I’ve called again today and they did say that this is generalised time frame and unlikely to be this long with expedited cases.

I’m aware that there are 2 pieces of work that need to be done before mine can be completed. However nobody is able to give me a time frame when this will be done. Without a time frame it’s looking like I’m going to have a pull out of the sale. 

Is there absolutely no way of getting this through quicker? Can the case worker push for the other work to be done? 

Thanks 

We do push but the ball is very much in the applicants court re timescales as until they reply we can’t proceed in each case. 

The conveyancer involved in the sale is better placed to push as appropriate as fellow conveyancing firm involved. Whether they can and will though is up to them. 

We will remind/chase after a set time only as that’s very much part of the registration process 

Sorry bit confused with this reply.

As far as I’m aware the lodging solicitors have responded to everything land reg has requested and the delay now lies with land reg? 

There’s ‘prior applications and other pieces of work ahead of mine that need to be done first apparently so what I’m asking is surely the caseworker will have a rough estimate when this work may be completed? 

Without been given a time frame from land reg I’m going to lose the house which seems completely ridiculous. 

Is it possible to get this escalated to a manager? 

Thanks 

There are a large number of prior applications pending against the seller’s title most of which have been submitted by a variety of conveyancers. You refer to just one but there are many.
There are 60+ applications pending and with priority ahead of your own expedited application. Your conveyancer has been advised (last week) re the current hold up
The conveyancer who lodged the application which appears to be the main blocker was contacted on the 19th July and we await their response. 

I totally understand the ridiculous nature of the situation re timescales involved but it looks as if we are very much up to date with this development but reliant on the conveyancers to resolve specific issues before all the plot sales can start to fall like dominoes. Unfortunately that can happen when applications are incomplete
As you have contacted us direct you can reply using that channel escalate matters but I’m afraid there will be nothing we can do at this stage as the conveyancers will need time to resolve matters. 

Spoke to the phone team and they’ve escalated it through to your complaints team . 

I don't see what grounds you have for complaint against the LR. I'm sure your solicitor can explain the position if you don't understand or believe the LR rep's explanation.

Solicitor has fully explained and so has land reg. The phone team have been very helpful and fully understanding of the problems this is causing me, they therefore offered to escalate to complaints team actually. 

Land_Registry

g7lla said:

@Land_Registry, could you please advise how long it's taking to process a first registration please with and without the case being expedited? Just going through the legals after having an offer accepted and found out the house isn't registered. Our mortgage offer expires end of September - if the case is expeditated are we likely to have the FR sorted by then?

Thanks!

Without it will wait a very long time. 

They need to lodge it. And then request expedition. If they do that and it’s in order you should meet your deadline 

woodpeckerx

user1977 said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Hi,

Looking for some help. My land registry ref number is EA88FD3.

I offered on a shared ownership property back in February, the searches came back in May and flagged up issues with land registry titles.

The application was successfully expedited in Feb. I was told that there were 3 outstanding requisitions to be resolved by the lodging solicitors before it could proceed. I’ve gone back and fourth for months trying to get the solicitors to resolve these 3 points. 

This has finally been done however I’m now being told that the titles still can’t be done because of 12 - 18 months backlogs!? i thought that because it was expedited it could be done ahead, but apparently not? 

I want to know exactly what the issue is and why the titles can’t be done?

Additionally, I have asked my solicitor to compete without the full titles (based on the uncertain time frame) however I’m being told this is not an option? 

Thanks for your help

Can you confirm the reference please as that one is unrecognised 

Hey, just double checked and EA88FD3 is the correct ref number and is found under this when I call up. 

Also have the title numbers -
 DY561107 (New Title)

DY531957 (Parent Title)

Or customer reference 

GTAL01/039775.00445(P44)

If you manage to find it, I’d also like to know when the 12 - 18 months time frame starts. For example is it from the date I offered on the property? 


Thanks  

Ok - so lodged 18 Feb and it’s been expedited. Unsure where 12-18 months comes from but if from your solicitor then I’d imagine from completion (January)
The reason it can’t be completed yet by us is that there are prior applications against the developer’s title that affect and need to be completed first. 

The solicitor has recently been advised of this so should be able to share/explain in more detail for you 

Hi thanks for your quick reply. 

12 - 18 months came from land registry yourselves when I called up. Although I’ve called again today and they did say that this is generalised time frame and unlikely to be this long with expedited cases.

I’m aware that there are 2 pieces of work that need to be done before mine can be completed. However nobody is able to give me a time frame when this will be done. Without a time frame it’s looking like I’m going to have a pull out of the sale. 

Is there absolutely no way of getting this through quicker? Can the case worker push for the other work to be done? 

Thanks 

We do push but the ball is very much in the applicants court re timescales as until they reply we can’t proceed in each case. 

The conveyancer involved in the sale is better placed to push as appropriate as fellow conveyancing firm involved. Whether they can and will though is up to them. 

We will remind/chase after a set time only as that’s very much part of the registration process 

Sorry bit confused with this reply.

As far as I’m aware the lodging solicitors have responded to everything land reg has requested and the delay now lies with land reg? 

There’s ‘prior applications and other pieces of work ahead of mine that need to be done first apparently so what I’m asking is surely the caseworker will have a rough estimate when this work may be completed? 

Without been given a time frame from land reg I’m going to lose the house which seems completely ridiculous. 

Is it possible to get this escalated to a manager? 

Thanks 

There are a large number of prior applications pending against the seller’s title most of which have been submitted by a variety of conveyancers. You refer to just one but there are many.
There are 60+ applications pending and with priority ahead of your own expedited application. Your conveyancer has been advised (last week) re the current hold up
The conveyancer who lodged the application which appears to be the main blocker was contacted on the 19th July and we await their response. 

I totally understand the ridiculous nature of the situation re timescales involved but it looks as if we are very much up to date with this development but reliant on the conveyancers to resolve specific issues before all the plot sales can start to fall like dominoes. Unfortunately that can happen when applications are incomplete
As you have contacted us direct you can reply using that channel escalate matters but I’m afraid there will be nothing we can do at this stage as the conveyancers will need time to resolve matters. 

Spoke to the phone team and they’ve escalated it through to your complaints team . 

I don't see what grounds you have for complaint against the LR. I'm sure your solicitor can explain the position if you don't understand or believe the LR rep's explanation.

Solicitors seem to have this bad habit of blaming LR for their own failings, had this recently and put the solictor straight that in no way was the LR delaying anything.

woodpeckerx

g7lla said:

@Land_Registry, could you please advise how long it's taking to process a first registration please with and without the case being expedited? Just going through the legals after having an offer accepted and found out the house isn't registered. Our mortgage offer expires end of September - if the case is expeditated are we likely to have the FR sorted by then?

Thanks!

If the seller has the deeds it doesn't need to be registered.

I recently had a similar situation but seller had lost the deeds and then found them half way though the registration. LR dealt with it very promptly, was all registered in under 3 weeks, the only delays were caused by the solicitor not answering the requisitions quickly.

Melcooling1

woodpeckerx said:

user1977 said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Land_Registry said:

Melcooling1 said:

Hi,

Looking for some help. My land registry ref number is EA88FD3.

I offered on a shared ownership property back in February, the searches came back in May and flagged up issues with land registry titles.

The application was successfully expedited in Feb. I was told that there were 3 outstanding requisitions to be resolved by the lodging solicitors before it could proceed. I’ve gone back and fourth for months trying to get the solicitors to resolve these 3 points. 

This has finally been done however I’m now being told that the titles still can’t be done because of 12 - 18 months backlogs!? i thought that because it was expedited it could be done ahead, but apparently not? 

I want to know exactly what the issue is and why the titles can’t be done?

Additionally, I have asked my solicitor to compete without the full titles (based on the uncertain time frame) however I’m being told this is not an option? 

Thanks for your help

Can you confirm the reference please as that one is unrecognised 

Hey, just double checked and EA88FD3 is the correct ref number and is found under this when I call up. 

Also have the title numbers -
 DY561107 (New Title)

DY531957 (Parent Title)

Or customer reference 

GTAL01/039775.00445(P44)

If you manage to find it, I’d also like to know when the 12 - 18 months time frame starts. For example is it from the date I offered on the property? 


Thanks  

Ok - so lodged 18 Feb and it’s been expedited. Unsure where 12-18 months comes from but if from your solicitor then I’d imagine from completion (January)
The reason it can’t be completed yet by us is that there are prior applications against the developer’s title that affect and need to be completed first. 

The solicitor has recently been advised of this so should be able to share/explain in more detail for you 

Hi thanks for your quick reply. 

12 - 18 months came from land registry yourselves when I called up. Although I’ve called again today and they did say that this is generalised time frame and unlikely to be this long with expedited cases.

I’m aware that there are 2 pieces of work that need to be done before mine can be completed. However nobody is able to give me a time frame when this will be done. Without a time frame it’s looking like I’m going to have a pull out of the sale. 

Is there absolutely no way of getting this through quicker? Can the case worker push for the other work to be done? 

Thanks 

We do push but the ball is very much in the applicants court re timescales as until they reply we can’t proceed in each case. 

The conveyancer involved in the sale is better placed to push as appropriate as fellow conveyancing firm involved. Whether they can and will though is up to them. 

We will remind/chase after a set time only as that’s very much part of the registration process 

Sorry bit confused with this reply.

As far as I’m aware the lodging solicitors have responded to everything land reg has requested and the delay now lies with land reg? 

There’s ‘prior applications and other pieces of work ahead of mine that need to be done first apparently so what I’m asking is surely the caseworker will have a rough estimate when this work may be completed? 

Without been given a time frame from land reg I’m going to lose the house which seems completely ridiculous. 

Is it possible to get this escalated to a manager? 

Thanks 

There are a large number of prior applications pending against the seller’s title most of which have been submitted by a variety of conveyancers. You refer to just one but there are many.
There are 60+ applications pending and with priority ahead of your own expedited application. Your conveyancer has been advised (last week) re the current hold up
The conveyancer who lodged the application which appears to be the main blocker was contacted on the 19th July and we await their response. 

I totally understand the ridiculous nature of the situation re timescales involved but it looks as if we are very much up to date with this development but reliant on the conveyancers to resolve specific issues before all the plot sales can start to fall like dominoes. Unfortunately that can happen when applications are incomplete
As you have contacted us direct you can reply using that channel escalate matters but I’m afraid there will be nothing we can do at this stage as the conveyancers will need time to resolve matters. 

Spoke to the phone team and they’ve escalated it through to your complaints team . 

I don't see what grounds you have for complaint against the LR. I'm sure your solicitor can explain the position if you don't understand or believe the LR rep's explanation.

Solicitors seem to have this bad habit of blaming LR for their own failings, had this recently and put the solictor straight that in no way was the LR delaying anything.

Haha yeh totally get that! I was putting mine straight for 2 months that it was the sellers solicitor holding it up! That’s all been resolved now so unfortunately the hold up is with land Reg or more specifically prior applications and their conveyancers. Land reg are not able to put my application ahead of these even though it’s essentially ‘ready to go’ so this is what they’ve escalated my complaint about

g7lla

woodpeckerx said:

g7lla said:

@Land_Registry, could you please advise how long it's taking to process a first registration please with and without the case being expedited? Just going through the legals after having an offer accepted and found out the house isn't registered. Our mortgage offer expires end of September - if the case is expeditated are we likely to have the FR sorted by then?

Thanks!

If the seller has the deeds it doesn't need to be registered.

I recently had a similar situation but seller had lost the deeds and then found them half way though the registration. LR dealt with it very promptly, was all registered in under 3 weeks, the only delays were caused by the solicitor not answering the requisitions quickly.

Thanks, i'll ask if they have them. The house is currently going through probate. The previous owner was an elderly gentleman who's passed away and his daughter is selling the property which makes it difficult. All we know is that the house was never registered and found this out after our bid was successful.