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  • Nellie15
    Nellie15 Posts: 48 Forumite
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    Nellie15 said:
    Nellie15 said:
    Nellie15 said:
    Hi Land Registry. 
    Could you tell
    me if anything is happening with this application. 

    Application Reference: HG7673E Title Number: NYK485182

     It has missed every  completion date and is now over  14 months from submission
    also could you check NYK 34609
    thanks . 

    Still with us. Expedited.And we asked conveyancer for more on 21st. Waiting for a reply
    NYK34609 - nothing pending and hasn’t been since 2014
    Hi I have submitted  it myself and have not had any correspondence. I have request contact via email. 
    Made a mistake on the other title number it’s nyk 346079 
    Thanks for your help. 
    NYK485182 - letter issued dated 21st July 
    NYK346079 - a letter was issued to the applicant on 20th July

    Different postal addresses provided on the two applications. 
    If you haven’t received the letters at both address in next few days I’d suggest using our contact us form to query 
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/contact-hm-land-registry#online
    Thanks. Worried now about the contents of the letters 😂😂
    Hi I have returned NYK 346079 with th amendments.  Will this be dealt with soon or will there be a long wait ? 
    The other title will be a week or two as it involves other people.
    Thanks 
  • Land_Registry
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    edited 9 August 2022 at 10:56AM
    Nellie15 said:
    Nellie15 said:
    Nellie15 said:
    Nellie15 said:
    Hi Land Registry. 
    Could you tell
    me if anything is happening with this application. 

    Application Reference: HG7673E Title Number: NYK485182

     It has missed every  completion date and is now over  14 months from submission
    also could you check NYK 34609
    thanks . 

    Still with us. Expedited.And we asked conveyancer for more on 21st. Waiting for a reply
    NYK34609 - nothing pending and hasn’t been since 2014
    Hi I have submitted  it myself and have not had any correspondence. I have request contact via email. 
    Made a mistake on the other title number it’s nyk 346079 
    Thanks for your help. 
    NYK485182 - letter issued dated 21st July 
    NYK346079 - a letter was issued to the applicant on 20th July

    Different postal addresses provided on the two applications. 
    If you haven’t received the letters at both address in next few days I’d suggest using our contact us form to query 
    https://www.gov.uk/guidance/contact-hm-land-registry#online
    Thanks. Worried now about the contents of the letters 😂😂
    Hi I have returned NYK 346079 with th amendments.  Will this be dealt with soon or will there be a long wait ? 
    The other title will be a week or two as it involves other people.
    Thanks 
    It will be reconsidered asap so no long wait for that. 
    Wider checks may then need to take place but please wait for us to contact you as appropriate 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • fj87
    fj87 Posts: 1 Newbie
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    Hi
    We are trying to purchase a property which has a restriction on the title to do with proprietorship, but it has been sold before without this restriction being changed. 
    Our conveyancer is stating we need to obtain a certificate of compliance from the original owner of the land before we can complete. Please can you advise if this is the case? 
    Title number SK334000
  • Land_Registry
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    fj87 said:
    Hi
    We are trying to purchase a property which has a restriction on the title to do with proprietorship, but it has been sold before without this restriction being changed. 
    Our conveyancer is stating we need to obtain a certificate of compliance from the original owner of the land before we can complete. Please can you advise if this is the case? 
    Title number SK334000
    Very much a question for your conveyancer to cover for you 
    But the wording is quite clear as to what’s required and it includes two options so an either or scenario. We would not be able to register your purchase without the restriction being complied with 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Bunnygirl
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    edited 9 August 2022 at 2:02PM
    Bunnygirl said:
    We have a driveway with a neighbour that has not been used in over 40 years. New person has moved into house and wants to start using it. We always thought it didn’t have a ROW on it.  I have both deeds and I can’t see anything about a driveway our ROW. Could this info be anywhere else? My neighbour says he got the deeds changed and he had proof but won’t show me.

    Title number: NT59841 For my neighbour deeds 
    The register confirms what rights etc are registered and you can check online 
    https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry
    Nothing has changed since it was purchased 
    I’d recommend seeking legal advice re what your options are here especially if he won’t ‘share’ 

    I can’t see a driveway or ROW listed on the title at all but I just wanted to make sure they didn’t get changed in the 70’s when my old neighbours built the drive. I have the register for both houses that I purchased online last week. We would like to put a fence down the driveway if he doesn’t have a ROW on it. Like I say the drive has not been used in 40 years as if one person uses the drive the other person can’t.

    I would like to be a glow-worm.
    A glow-worm's never glum.
    Its hard to be downhearted when the sun shines out your bum.
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,143 Organisation Representative
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    Bunnygirl said:
    Bunnygirl said:
    We have a driveway with a neighbour that has not been used in over 40 years. New person has moved into house and wants to start using it. We always thought it didn’t have a ROW on it.  I have both deeds and I can’t see anything about a driveway our ROW. Could this info be anywhere else? My neighbour says he got the deeds changed and he had proof but won’t show me.

    Title number: NT59841 For my neighbour deeds 
    The register confirms what rights etc are registered and you can check online 
    https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry
    Nothing has changed since it was purchased 
    I’d recommend seeking legal advice re what your options are here especially if he won’t ‘share’ 

    I can’t see a driveway or ROW listed on the title at all but I just wanted to make sure they didn’t get changed in the 70’s when my old neighbours built the drive. I have the register for both houses that I purchased online last week. We would like to put a fence down the driveway if he doesn’t have a ROW on it. Like I say the drive has not been used in 40 years as if one person uses the drive the other person can’t.

    There are a number of factors to consider here hence the reply signposting legal advice. 
    Old neighbours built the drive - that means it was used albeit nothing registered to confirm 
    Has the neighbour or previous owners used it as a drive/ROW previously - if yes then that right may still exist in law. Not using it rarely means it’s ‘lost’ as you also need to show that something specific has happened to prove you’ve abandoned using the right for example you’ve fenced it off so you can’t drive up and down it. 
    So the registered information gets you so far but not all of the way. Understanding his position/claim would help assess what options you have but if not sharing then it’s the law you need to understand next and what options exist. If you put up a fence and he removes it what next legally being one question to ask
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Bunnygirl
    Bunnygirl Posts: 387 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Combo Breaker
    Bunnygirl said:
    Bunnygirl said:
    We have a driveway with a neighbour that has not been used in over 40 years. New person has moved into house and wants to start using it. We always thought it didn’t have a ROW on it.  I have both deeds and I can’t see anything about a driveway our ROW. Could this info be anywhere else? My neighbour says he got the deeds changed and he had proof but won’t show me.

    Title number: NT59841 For my neighbour deeds 
    The register confirms what rights etc are registered and you can check online 
    https://www.gov.uk/search-property-information-land-registry
    Nothing has changed since it was purchased 
    I’d recommend seeking legal advice re what your options are here especially if he won’t ‘share’ 

    I can’t see a driveway or ROW listed on the title at all but I just wanted to make sure they didn’t get changed in the 70’s when my old neighbours built the drive. I have the register for both houses that I purchased online last week. We would like to put a fence down the driveway if he doesn’t have a ROW on it. Like I say the drive has not been used in 40 years as if one person uses the drive the other person can’t.

    There are a number of factors to consider here hence the reply signposting legal advice. 
    Old neighbours built the drive - that means it was used albeit nothing registered to confirm 
    Has the neighbour or previous owners used it as a drive/ROW previously - if yes then that right may still exist in law. Not using it rarely means it’s ‘lost’ as you also need to show that something specific has happened to prove you’ve abandoned using the right for example you’ve fenced it off so you can’t drive up and down it. 
    So the registered information gets you so far but not all of the way. Understanding his position/claim would help assess what options you have but if not sharing then it’s the law you need to understand next and what options exist. If you put up a fence and he removes it what next legally being one question to ask
    Thank you so much for your help. We didn’t want to stop him from using the drive if we were in the wrong. But it’s not been used as a drive for 40 years. The title plan shows a boundary line right down the middle. We don’t use the drive as it was badly built and has a gas pipe running down it. Before my new neighbour brought the house he was told we didn’t use the drive. He wanted to add a driveway in his front garden and I could do what I want on it. I built large planters and added trellis to the top part that was once part of our garden 7 years ago. He now can’t afford the driveway in his front garden hence he now wants to use the drive. We now want to fence our side off due to safety issues and threats of violence from him. We will take legal advice on the matter and try and ask him to do the same.
    I would like to be a glow-worm.
    A glow-worm's never glum.
    Its hard to be downhearted when the sun shines out your bum.
  • Hoping to get some information on the expected timescale of an expedited application. I know that this is usually 10 days, but can take longer in general but I am hoping someone can give us an indication of how much longer we will need to wait. Here are the details of our case:

    The house we are trying to buy was not registered properly by the sellers’ solicitors when they came to buy it. This means that it is currently a case of adverse possession. The sellers have been granted an expedition by the Land Registry and we are now into the 3rd week after this was granted. We have sold our property and are currently in temporary accommodation so are very keen to complete asap, which we can do as soon as this registration issue has been solved.
    In a case like this with adverse possession due to a solicitor’s mistake and with an expedition, could you give any more information on the expected timescale for how long we will need to wait?

    many thanks,
    Simon
  • Land_Registry
    Land_Registry Posts: 6,143 Organisation Representative
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    Hoping to get some information on the expected timescale of an expedited application. I know that this is usually 10 days, but can take longer in general but I am hoping someone can give us an indication of how much longer we will need to wait. Here are the details of our case:

    The house we are trying to buy was not registered properly by the sellers’ solicitors when they came to buy it. This means that it is currently a case of adverse possession. The sellers have been granted an expedition by the Land Registry and we are now into the 3rd week after this was granted. We have sold our property and are currently in temporary accommodation so are very keen to complete asap, which we can do as soon as this registration issue has been solved.
    In a case like this with adverse possession due to a solicitor’s mistake and with an expedition, could you give any more information on the expected timescale for how long we will need to wait?

    many thanks,
    Simon
    Not without more details such as the title number but if it’s a general comment you want then it may be some time still. 
    Expedition reduces the wait time form sitting waiting to be processed it it being considered by a caseworker. 
    If there’s adverse possession involved then it’s likely to go to a senior officer as well to consider the Stat Dec provided
    if that’s ok then we need a survey (2 weeks) to check the reality on the ground
    If that’s ok then we are likely to have to contact neighbouring land owners to see if they agree or not (3 weeks). If it’s registered to someone then they’d need contacting
    So from expedition approval to registration completion will still take time. The conveyancer can track progress re each stage for you but it’s still at least a 2 month wait in my experience and if it’s all in order 
    Official Company Representative
    I am the official company representative of Land Registry. MSE has given permission for me to post in response to queries about the company, so that I can help solve issues. You can see my name on the companies with permission to post list. I am not allowed to tout for business at all. If you believe I am please report it to forumteam@moneysavingexpert.com This does NOT imply any form of approval of my company or its products by MSE"
  • Hoping to get some information on the expected timescale of an expedited application. I know that this is usually 10 days, but can take longer in general but I am hoping someone can give us an indication of how much longer we will need to wait. Here are the details of our case:

    The house we are trying to buy was not registered properly by the sellers’ solicitors when they came to buy it. This means that it is currently a case of adverse possession. The sellers have been granted an expedition by the Land Registry and we are now into the 3rd week after this was granted. We have sold our property and are currently in temporary accommodation so are very keen to complete asap, which we can do as soon as this registration issue has been solved.
    In a case like this with adverse possession due to a solicitor’s mistake and with an expedition, could you give any more information on the expected timescale for how long we will need to wait?

    many thanks,
    Simon
    Not without more details such as the title number but if it’s a general comment you want then it may be some time still. 
    Expedition reduces the wait time form sitting waiting to be processed it it being considered by a caseworker. 
    If there’s adverse possession involved then it’s likely to go to a senior officer as well to consider the Stat Dec provided
    if that’s ok then we need a survey (2 weeks) to check the reality on the ground
    If that’s ok then we are likely to have to contact neighbouring land owners to see if they agree or not (3 weeks). If it’s registered to someone then they’d need contacting
    So from expedition approval to registration completion will still take time. The conveyancer can track progress re each stage for you but it’s still at least a 2 month wait in my experience and if it’s all in order 
    Here are the title numbers: MAN132972 - Freehold; GM813526 - Headlease. 

    Thanks for the information so far. Any further information would be greatly appreciated.

    Thanks,
    Simon
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