Motoring offence, crossing red x on motorway

Happychappy

Marbo wrote: »

What if the officer is lying in her statement and my registration number was passed on by a colleague present at the scene who saw me driving in lane 1? What if she arrived moments later after I've passed that gantry?

What if your a liar, and what if your a selfish crap driver and doesn't know the law, what if you are a member of the "why me, ! It's not fair to prosecute me, prosecute law breakers" what if you are floundering with a defence, what if you actually told the truth :eek: I love this what if society :rotfl:

Happychappy

mark1959 wrote: »

Go to court and tell them that you were just trying to push in and that you're really clever.
Then let us know how you got on.

I wish Amazon or Netflix could stream live trials such as this, i would sign up. It would be much more interesting than Emmerdale, full of scheming, lying, arrogant people who don't want to be judged by others, whereas Emmerdale is just a soap, but similar actors and story lines.

almillar

It would be much more interesting than Emmerdale, full of scheming, lying, arrogant people who don't want to be judged by others

Try BBC Parliament

seatbeltnoob

AdrianC wrote: »

Bit late for that, given that he's already turned down an SAC and FPN in favour of a court date.

Sorry, couldnt read 5 pages of waffle.

To be honest, there are too many inconsiderate drivers and if every entitled, inconsiderate driver has the same attitude with dealing with NIP and FPN and lands them in further trouble by ignoring them then it only helps the rest of us.

The signs with the ban/speed/x marks are so universally recognised, they are meant for any HGV driver from anywhere in Europe to see them and decipher what they mean. I was not taught any of this during my driving test (theory or practical, nor was it mentioned in lesson). But when I spotted it first time I saw green signs over some lanes and a red x over the one I was driving in and I decided to switch to the green lane.

Furthermore if you are a complete idiot and failed to see the sign, you would at least notice "hey why is everyone moving over to the other lane? Why is my lane clear and the other lanes and jam packed?"

It's only the complete inconsiderate idiots who would look a this situation and think "oh wow, I'm so lucky I have this lane all to myself".

redux

redux wrote: »

Magistrates are naturally disposed towards believing police evidence, even if the bloke goes sick at 20 minutes notice and doesn't turn up.

Mercdriver wrote: »

Nothing like a bit of conspiracy to spice things up, eh?

If the defence wishes to question the police officer, then the hearing would be adjourned. As to weight given to evidence, the police officer has no pecuniary reason to lie, the defendant does. Doesn't stop the defendant introducing doubt to the evidence, but I don't think that would apply here as the OP has given various accounts here and elsewhere that confirm what the officer says she saw.

You may scoff, and theory is one thing, but what I said about an officer going sick at 20 minutes notice has actually happened to me.

So in three visits to court of a speeding case, none of which became Newton hearings, the prosecution did not bring any evidence, and nor did I have a chance to question it.

My solicitor suggested I write to the Lord Chancellor about my experience of the legal system. Regrettably I didn't bother.

Marbo

Luckily some of you aren't magistrates at work and I am living in the 21st century.
Before virtually be burnt alive I would like to say the following:

I didn't threatened any human life that day , I drove slow before and along the accident and I usually slow down when I see roadworks, police and ambulance.

I was wrong about the location of where they spotted me, I've made the false assumption it was at the point of re-entry on M1, where I was trying to push in to the queue of lorries.

According to the officer I've passed under the red X ,in lane 1, after I passed the incident that was obstructing lane 1 and the hardshoulder. It is possible, sometimes they keep closed the next segment after an accident as well.

I have the records from "HALOGEN" for the gantry before the accident....they show a change in the signage just 4 minutes prior to the time if the alleged offence, they opened lane 2.
They "ommited" to send me the records for the next gantry, I'll try again being more specific.

Billy_Bullocks

redux wrote: »

You may scoff, and theory is one thing, but what I said about an officer going sick at 20 minutes notice has actually happened to me.

So in three visits to court of a speeding case, none of which became Newton hearings, the prosecution did not bring any evidence, and nor did I.

My solicitor suggested I write to the Lord Chancellor about my experience of the legal system. Regrettably I didn't bother.

So all charges were dropped?

redux

Billy_Bullocks wrote: »

So all charges were dropped?

No. I was banned from driving for 12 days, 5 penalty points, fined £300, fine reduced to £200 on appeal.

Billy_Bullocks

redux wrote: »

No. I was banned from driving for 12 days, 5 penalty points, fined £300, fine reduced to £200 on appeal.

So the prosecution did bring evidence.

You get points or a ban not both.

redux

Billy_Bullocks wrote: »

So the prosecution did bring evidence.

You get points or a ban not both.

I refer you to the last paragraph of my earlier post .