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Motoring offence, crossing red x on motorway

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  • mcpitman
    mcpitman Posts: 1,267 Forumite
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    Marbo wrote: »
    save other peoples time of making FOI requests or bad choices.


    I don't think there are many people on this planet that would make the bad choices you have.


    People who drive like you are the most selfish, ignorant, arrogant users of the public highway and need the book throwing at them.
    Life isn't about the number of breaths we take, but the moments that take our breath away. Like choking....
  • be careful if you challenge it and lose youre likely to get a larger fine than had you just admitted guilt and gone along with it
  • AdrianC
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    be careful if you challenge it and lose youre likely to get a larger fine than had you just admitted guilt and gone along with it
    Bit late for that, given that he's already turned down an SAC and FPN in favour of a court date.
  • Car_54
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    AdrianC wrote: »
    Bit late for that, given that he's already turned down an SAC and FPN in favour of a court date.

    He can still plead guilty, and so get a discount on the fine and avoid the higher costs.
  • Andy_L
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    d123 wrote: »
    It's gone beyond popcorn ;) he's been told if all he wants is sympathy he needs to go to mumsnet :p

    AIUI mumsnet can be quite brutal ;)
  • Car_54 wrote: »
    He can still plead guilty, and so get a discount on the fine and avoid the higher costs.

    I think his missed the chance to get a discount as he's entered a nit guilty plea.
  • Car_54
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    I think his missed the chance to get a discount as he's entered a nit guilty plea.

    "Nit" is possibly the right word.

    He can still get a discount, though it reduces.

    AFAIK its 33% at the earliest, down to 10% on the day of the trial.
  • redux
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    Magistrates are naturally disposed towards believing police evidence, even if the bloke goes sick at 20 minutes notice and doesn't turn up.
  • Mercdriver
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    redux wrote: »
    Magistrates are naturally disposed towards believing police evidence, even if the bloke goes sick at 20 minutes notice and doesn't turn up.

    Nothing like a bit of conspiracy to spice things up, eh?

    If the defence wishes to question the police officer, then the hearing would be adjourned. As to weight given to evidence, the police officer has no pecuniary reason to lie, the defendant does. Doesn't stop the defendant introducing doubt to the evidence, but I don't think that would apply here as the OP has given various accounts here and elsewhere that confirm what the officer says she saw.
  • Mercdriver wrote: »
    Nothing like a bit of conspiracy to spice things up, eh?

    If the defence wishes to question the police officer, then the hearing would be adjourned. As to weight given to evidence, the police officer has no pecuniary reason to lie, the defendant does. Doesn't stop the defendant introducing doubt to the evidence, but I don't think that would apply here as the OP has given various accounts here and elsewhere that confirm what the officer says she saw.

    It's more likely to be thrown out.
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