dekaspace wrote: »
I am angry but I am trying to be respectful, if you worked with people with autism you would realise certain things occur, I "blame" my autism in the sense it stops me being "normal" in the sense it stunted my social development, it meant that I had conflicting interests going up, one half of me wanted to stay in and play video games even in my very late teens, one half wanted to socialise and whatever I did I felt at least a little upset I lost out on another it was simple things in the brain, so yes autism is to blame for that, MH problems just meant due to the way my autistic brain functioned I couldn't do things to improve easily so in that sense as well I can "blame" autism. Well stop it. It isn't helping to blame something you cannot change. CBT will hopefully teach you that. You've also been given 2 online CBT programmes in the thread (which I am guessing you haven't even looked at).
And where am I lacking manners apart from the time someone makes a negative comment I respond to such negative comment?
Trying to work out why you think I am being offensive when you are the one that accused me of taking the pi55.
I did get CBT once and at 3rd session I said I felt a little less low than usual as it was nice weather and was taken off for being "better"
I had got referred to CBT last year at current address who came round once and said all they can do is recommend I have a better diet and sleep pattern and attend autism group. That was an assessment. If they efeel something is more appropriate then they will refer you on. They are professionals.
So yes I did try just like I tried to change diet and I tried to change sleep pattern, how is that not trying to help myself? Not what you said earlier, just that you need to have an hour and a half of showers.
There was certain things I found almost impossible before MH problems so its not exactly going to be doable when I do (but doesn't mean I won't try) It comes across exactly that way.
Again if you understand autism you would think maybe like I said earlier my brain processes every individual thing but won't think about the whole lot until the end hence why for example I don't give thanks until a discussion is over then I can think things over. There's a huge difference between taking time to respond or make decisions and being self destructive. Your anger and frustration are things you need to tell your therapist about.
And the whole point as well is why I said things along the lines of treating the root of the problem, not that changing diet or sleep won't help but the help will be far less efficent or useful than treating the root not that I won't still try. But that is part of the root of the problem. A poor diet, poor sleep an poor exercise have a massive impact on MH. Take it from someone who has spent the last 23 years in MH services as a patient. GEtting better starts with you, and it starts with a routine and the little things.
If you look at my thread history I have started threads before in OSM asking about food tips, health tips etc.
About the being referred, even the one said it was a long waiting list and 6 maximum sessions (not per year thats total) and bear in mind I live in Scotland where it could be different though in England I was told they were so swamped there was no point more than they wouldn't refer me in that it was a year if not more to get initial assessment. I did however get reffered for autism but that in itself was a intentionally bad system, it had a 6-12 month waiting list and their get out clause was at random points they would send you a letter giving you 7 days from the date of letter to phone them and confirm you still wanted assessed or you were removed from the system and had to be referred again from GP. So you weren't refused a referral, you chose not to take it. There's a massive difference between the two, which could land someone in court for negligence. And CBT is usually 6 sessions, regardless of the location - perhaps use the online resources referred to previously, then you can do it as often as you like?
Each surgery has treated me different my best was last town I stayed by far as it was only there I got reffered for autism tests, got disability benefits etc, she even prescribed anti depressants not for depression but extreme anxiety no where else would do much. You usually need a working MH diagnosis to be put on long term medication. Perhaps mention this to the therapist when you see them, so they can get diagnosis in place if you do not have anything in writing on your medical records.
So shorter way again is saying I have tried things in past, listed the issues I had when doing so, meant that I doubt it will work but I will try. Sometimes you have to do the same things over and over again until your brain accepts it. Doesn't mean they don't work, just a lot of patience and motivation.
Rather than the assumption I am just being dismissive.
DomRavioli wrote: »
You've been advised of having better sleep hygiene, to see your GP, to start self help, to eat better, and to start looking after yourself.
That has been met with "I did it years ago" - when by your own admission you had more control over your life; you have been very dismissive.
No GP would refuse to refer you to therapy because of waiting lists. You can refuse to go on the waiting list, but the GP has a duty of care to ensure your health is as best as it can be. It is also likely you can self refer for therapy, most CCGs now have this service. And by your own admission above, it was always available - and you will receive a service.
You come across as a whiny not willing to help themself person. therapy (most likely CBT) is based on self help principles - if you refuse to help yourself then there's no point going and wasting precious resources.
You've also had some very constructive suggestions as to who to approach about your issues, and some ways to deal with your issues. they have all been batted aside, in some ways quite abruptly and rudely. That isn't anything to do with autism (I've worked with people all over the autistic spectrum for 6 years, and although they may be different, they aren't offensive), possibly your MH, but stop blaming it on a diagnosis - that is the first place to start.
Perhaps when you recover your manners from wherever you left them, then people will be receptive to you.
And if you ever speak ill of me again, I will report you.
Ames wrote: »
To be fair, mine did. He said that as the waiting list is over a year and there's no guarantee that I won't be having an episode and unable to properly engage then there's no point referring. My CPN (who has made the referral) said that was rubbish, even if in a year I get to the top of the list and I'm not in the right place mentally they'll just hold the place until I can.
My GP has also refused to make referrals requested by specialists, so I think it's about saving money.
DomRavioli wrote: »
See above in red. There's been plenty on here that can help you. I'm guessing you haven't tried the two online instantly accessible CBT programs? Just seems self destructive - its hard to get out of the pity puddle but you have to wrench yourself out of it - and only you can do it.
tomtontom wrote: »
A fantastic young man has just been on the local news. You could learn a lot from him, it's amazing what a change in attitude can do for you - he's got a job, a car, goes on holidays - and he has Aspergers.http://www.nottinghamshire.gov.uk/pressreleases/show/council-service-supports-people-with-learning-disabilities-into-employment
The interview with Bradley will be on the East Midlands Today website/ Facebook page tomorrow. Maybe you'll take a look?
GlasweJen wrote: »
Deka you live in Glasgow, I live in Glasgow. The CMHT will offer you an 8 week CBT course one day or evening a week and will do it within 8 weeks if you have the availability - which you do.
I called at the end of May, spoke to someone on the 9th June and start my next round of CBT next Tuesday and that's because I work and couldn't make the first day I was offered.
xXMessedUpXx wrote: »
I got refused therapy because i was under the care of secondary services and apparently you couldn't be in both??
Looking at being back under the CMHT but going to try and get some therapy sorted first
As far as sleep hgyine goes, a lot of advice is to get up early etc. That simply doesn;t work for me. I was never a morning person anyway, and i'm the kind of person who needs asolid 10 hours sleep, so back when i had to up at work for 4am i'd be in bed by 8pm! Which gave me little time to do anything as i'd often be working till the afternoon. Now i work afternoon/evenings so my routine is bed between 2-3am and up by 1/2pm. This works for me. My meds make me drowsy but by afternoon i'm usually much more alert, an capable of functioning. I'm not recommending going to bed late and getting up later, just that there are different ways of having a routine and practicing sleep hygiene.
dekaspace wrote: »
people expect me to know better or think I am being ignroant/racist/sexist/homophobic
missbiggles1 wrote: »
Why would people think you're homophobic when you're gay?
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