IAS Appeal Dismissed - What do I do now?

chris0147

Fruitcake wrote: »

You are the OP (original Poster.) Do you mean the PPC (Private Parking Company?)


That letter mentions ZZPS debt collectors and VAT. Have you received any letters from them and is VAT an issue in your case?

No, I don't mean the PPC. I mean the IPC. I am sorry but you're confused me, who I need to write to as it mention in that post as I need to write a letter to OP and why I need to write to PPC when I only have IPC?

And no, I have not receive the letter from ZZPS debt collectors and I don't know if the VAT is an issue in my case.

Fruitcake

chris0147 wrote: »

No, I don't mean the PPC. I mean the IPC. I am sorry but you're confused me, who I need to write to as it mention in that post as I need to write a letter to OP and why I need to write to PPC when I only have IPC?

And no, I have not receive the letter from ZZPS debt collectors and I don't know if the VAT is an issue in my case.

You have confused me as well.


As far as I can tell: -
You have appealed to the PPC and lost.
You have appealed to the IAS (IPC members' kangaroo court) and lost.


The general advice concerning the kangaroo court appeals service is to ignore for six years after receiving a rejection, unless you get real court papers. There is nobody else to write to other than the landowner, the newspapers, and your MP.

beamerguy

chris0147 wrote: »

Today I received an email from IAS (Known as Independence Appeal Service) as I have making a complaint about unfair car park fine.

Here is what it said:

Dear Chris,

The Independent Appeals Service (IAS) has received a decision from the Independent Adjudicator regarding your recent appeal for the below PCN.

Parking Charge Number (PCN): XXXXXXXXX
Vehicle Registration: XXXXXXX
Date Issued: 2015-11-10

Appeal Outcome: Dismissed

The Adjudicators comments are as follows:

[code]"I cannot allow the appeal on the basis put forward. It is difficult to follow the Appellant’s submissions but I believe they are arguing that they have been given an incorrect permit, although it is not clear from whom they received this permit. In any event the contractual terms advertised on the signs make it clear that any driver parking without displaying a valid permit agrees to pay the charge. The Appellant claims to have a visitor permit, but they were not displaying this, nor have they provided any evidence that they are entitled to a permit. Even if I accept the Appellant’s submissions, it would not change the contractual terms. If the Appellant does not have a valid permit they may park as they did and pay the charge or park elsewhere. They chose the former, and the appeal is dismissed. "

As your appeal has been dismissed, the Independent Adjudicator has found, upon the evidence provided, that the parking charge was lawfully incurred.

As this appeal has not been resolved in your favour, the IAS is unable to intervene further in this matter.

The Operator must now allow you 14 days to make payment before they commence any action to enforce the charge.

Should you continue to contest the charge then you should consider obtaining independent legal advice.

Yours Sincerely

The Independent Appeals Service[/code]


My appeal have been dismissed, so it would mean I would have to pay the fine or they could take me to court to try to get the small claim.

I'd find it they are wrong to fine me, because I have lived here for 30 years as it never used like that before and I was given the wrong permit which is for visitor and I am a resident. I was scary to get the fine if I have left the visitor permit on my windscreen which I would still get the fine due to time limit of how long I would allow to park. I am the only one who got the fine and no one else get this, but only me. There was £60 fine notice, but the fine have now gone up to £100. I feel the penalty charge notice is unfair.

Is there anything I can do about it to go further whether if I have to contact POPLA to make a formal complaint?

Should I pay the fine or not?

Chris, you know I am getting sick to death of these scammers.

So you are aware. IPC WAS SET UP in competition to the BPA
IAS is a so called independent set up by IPC
It is a huge money making scam. WHY ?

SEE THIS LINK
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5365235

To be a agent of IPC, the PPC pays a subscription. Therefore there is a vested interest when it comes to IAS. ILLEGAL --- YES
When you get a rejection from IAS, IF YOU DON'T PAY, you will get either a debt collectors letter or a solicitors letter which comes from the same address as the IAS ??????

The Stables, Red Cow Yard, Knutsford Cheshire, WA16 6DG

This the the home of Gladstones Solicitors, a one time trusted firm
who have now entered the dark world of scammers.

At this point, you have choices
1: Trading Standards
2: The OFT (Office of fair trading)
3: Complain to the Law Society
http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/for-the-public/faqs/complaining-about-a-solicitor/

Best to do all three as there cannot be an independent adjudicator with interests to harass you and threaten you

That is why there is a petition to government to clean up this industry and to get a REAL unbiased regulator, IPS IS NOT
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/111925

As already said IAS is a kangeroo court with no meaning whatsover, apart from making money.

chris0147

beamerguy wrote: »

Chris, you know I am getting sick to death of these scammers.

So you are aware. IPC WAS SET UP in competition to the BPA
IAS is a so called independent set up by IPC
It is a huge money making scam. WHY ?

SEE THIS LINK
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5365235

To be a agent of IPC, the PPC pays a subscription. Therefore there is a vested interest when it comes to IAS. ILLEGAL --- YES
When you get a rejection from IAS, IF YOU DON'T PAY, you will get either a debt collectors letter or a solicitors leter which comes from the same address as the IAS ??????

The Stables, Red Cow Yard, Knutsford Cheshire, WA16 6DG

This the the home of Gladstones Solicitors, a one time trusted firm
who have now entered the dark world of scammers.

At this point, you have choices
1: Trading Standards
2: The OFT (Office of fair trading)
3: Complain to the Law Society
http://www.lawsociety.org.uk/for-the-public/faqs/complaining-about-a-solicitor/

Best to do all three as there cannot be an independent adjudicator with interests to harass you and threaten you

That is why there is a petition to government to clean up this industry and to get a REAL unbiased regulator, IPS IS NOT
https://petition.parliament.uk/petitions/111925

As already said IAS is a kangeroo court with no meaning whatsover

Thank you very much for this useful post. I am not fully aware about IAS which is set up by IPC that turn to a making money scam.

Yes I get a rejection from IAS, I have not receive a letter yet from debt collector or a solicitor letter. I don't know for sure if it comes from the same address as the IAS and IPC.

How did you find out the evidence from that it came from gladstone solicitor with the same address as the IAS and IPC??

Is the independent adjudicator are come from the same firm?

What about this address?

PCN Parking Solutions
London Parking Solutions Limited
PO BOX 5419
Hove
BN52 9AN

Did it come from the same firm?

Do I have to make a complaint to Trading Standards, Office Of Fair Trading and law society about independent adjudicator who is trying to charge me with an interests to threaten me and harass me with illegal making money scam??

beamerguy

chris0147 wrote: »

Thank you very much for this useful post. I am not fully aware about IAS which is set up by IPC that turn to a making money scam.

Yes I get a rejection from IAS, I have not receive a letter yet from debt collector or a solicitor letter. I don't know for sure if it comes from the same address as the IAS and IPC.

How did you find out the evidence from that it came from gladstone solicitor with the same address as the IAS and IPC??

Is the independent adjudicator are come from the same firm?

What about this address?

PCN Parking Solutions
London Parking Solutions Limited
PO BOX 5419
Hove
BN52 9AN

Did it come from the same firm?

Do I have to make a complaint to Trading Standards, Office Of Fair Trading and law society about independent adjudicator who is trying to charge me with an interests to threaten me and harass me with illegal making money scam??

you are not understanding, its no wonder its a tangled web

Your first post said your appeal had been lost with IAS.
You were given a link which is this to understand
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5365235

That answers what is known about IPS and its links.
You now say that the PPC is PCN Parking Solutions who must be a member of IPS for you to be able to appeal to IAS, you were given the opportunity to do this and failed

As you have failed with the IAS, if you do no more, you will start to get debt collectors letters and possibly a solicitors letter so you need to note who they are and where they came from

Gladstones and the IPS/IAS share the address
The Stables, Red Cow Yard, Knutsford Cheshire, WA16 6DG

You are not required to complain to the authorities about unfair trading, that is up to you. The post was to give you the background of who you are dealing with. What you decide to do is down to you
Please ensure you read the link provided and links onwards from that

chris0147

beamerguy wrote: »

you are not understanding, its no wonder its a tangled web

Your first post said your appeal had been lost with IAS.
You were given a link which is this to understand
https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/5365235

That answers what is known about IPS and its links.
You now say that the PPC is PCN Parking Solutions who must be a member of IPS for you to be able to appeal to IAS, you were given the opportunity to do this and failed

As you have failed with the IAS, if you do no more, you will start to get debt collectors letters and possibly a solicitors letter so you need to note who they are and where they came from

Gladstones and the IPS/IAS share the address
The Stables, Red Cow Yard, Knutsford Cheshire, WA16 6DG

You are not required to complain to the authorities about unfair trading, that is up to you. The post was to give you the background of who you are dealing with. What you decide to do is down to you
Please ensure you read the link provided and links onwards from that

Excuse me? I do understand what you are talking about and where you are coming from. Don't say I don't understand what you are talking about because it make no sense.

In my first post, yes I have lost an appeal to IAS. I have read the link and I am aware that IPC and IAS are shared the same address as the Gladstones Solicitors.

So can you find out if PCN Parking Solutions is a member of IPS for me to appeal to IAS?

Yeah I am sure that I will start to get a letter from debt collectors and possibly a letter from a solicitors, I will find out who they are and where they are coming from. If it is come from the same address, should I make a complaint to authorities about unfair trading that they would charge me with interests to harass me and threaten me??

I am going to make a complaint to authorities tomorrow about unfair trading as IAS should have been an independent which they are not and they are in the same firm as the IPC.

Grandad123

Des ja vue?

beamerguy

chris0147 wrote: »

Excuse me? I do understand what you are talking about and where you are coming from. Don't say I don't understand what you are talking about because it make no sense.

In my first post, yes I have lost an appeal to IAS. I have read the link and I am aware that IPC and IAS are shared the same address as the Gladstones Solicitors.

So can you find out if PCN Parking Solutions is a member of IPS for me to appeal to IAS?

Yeah I am sure that I will start to get a letter from debt collectors and possibly a letter from a solicitors, I will find out who they are and where they are coming from. If it is come from the same address, should I make a complaint to authorities about unfair trading that they would charge me with interests to harass me and threaten me??

I am going to make a complaint to authorities tomorrow about unfair trading as IAS should have been an independent which they are not and they are in the same firm as the IPC.

You find out, it's not our job to do that, if you want help on here, best cool it, good luck with your complaints

pappa_golf

chris0147 wrote: »

Excuse me? I do understand what you are talking about and where you are coming from. Don't say I don't understand what you are talking about because it make no sense.

In my first post, yes I have lost an appeal to IAS. I have read the link and I am aware that IPC and IAS are shared the same address as the Gladstones Solicitors.

So can you find out if PCN Parking Solutions is a member of IPS for me to appeal to IAS?

Yeah I am sure that I will start to get a letter from debt collectors and possibly a letter from a solicitors, I will find out who they are and where they are coming from. If it is come from the same address, should I make a complaint to authorities about unfair trading that they would charge me with interests to harass me and threaten me??

I am going to make a complaint to authorities tomorrow about unfair trading as IAS should have been an independent which they are not and they are in the same firm as the IPC.

oh dear , the parking company must be a member of one of the two recognised trade associations


the BPA = th british parking assoc , who use POPLA for their appeal service
http://www.britishparking.co.uk/Approved-Operators


the IPC = the independent parking committee who use the IAS for there appeal system
http://www.theipc.info/aos-members


there you go , check out which assoc the PPC are members of




although we/you already know they are members of the IPC

chris0147

beamerguy wrote: »

You find out, it's not our job to do that, if you want help on here, best cool it, good luck with your complaints

How I can find out?

Dont you dare to speak to me like that when I am asking you nicely and I don't know how you can find out.