7 years - no proposal

System

Pollycat wrote: »

Do many people go into a relationship thinking it's not going to last?

Ive known a few women who wanted the baby more than the man. Mainly women who's clock was ticking quite loudly.... and on the wrong side of 30.

Pollycat

Judi wrote: »

Ive known a few women who wanted the baby more than the man. Mainly women who's clock was ticking quite loudly.... and on the wrong side of 30.

WOW!
I can hardly believe people can be so manipulative. :eek:

seven-day-weekend

Judi wrote: »

Yes but some of us go into a relationship thinking its going to last.

Agreed, but if it didn't last, at least one partner was not committed.

Petra_70

VestanPance wrote: »

I agree that very rarely as these"accidents" actually accidents. More often than not it's planned by the woman who plays the accident card to the idiot she's seeing.

Any guy not taking responsibility for contraception himself is asking for trouble.

Absolutely. I refuse to believe that most 'accidental' pregnancies (where they decide to keep the baby,) are accidental at all, as I have seen it happen all too often.

And I don't believe for a second that women who 'accidently' get pregnant and decide to keep it, do so because of any religious or ethical or psychological reasons, or because 'there is never a perfect time to have a child so I may as well have it now,' or 'I thought I could never get pregnant...!' Yeah right! Perhaps it may be true for a few women, but not for most. In most cases, the pregnancy is planned!

In addition, if I was a man, and me and my partner had agreed to not have kids for some years (or not at all) and she piped up that she had 'accidently' fallen pregnant, and was keeping it, I would be absolutely furious. What right does any woman have to railroad any man into parenthood when he probably didn't want it yet? (Or at all even!)

These kind of women will then make the man out to be a monster when he doesn't stay with with her. I agree with 'Vestan Pance;' men should always use contraception too, especially if the woman is childless, and approaching 30 - or over 30 - because that is when they start to get their biological clocks ticking, and seem to 'accidently' get pregnant rather easily.

I reckon around 1 in 5 women who get pregnant accidently, and decide to keep it are genuine accidents ... The rest are planned.

jackieblack

VestanPance wrote: »

I agree that very rarely as these"accidents" actually accidents. More often than not it's planned by the woman who plays the accident card to the idiot she's seeing.

Any guy not taking responsibility for contraception himself is asking for trouble.

I'm not sure about the 'planned' part, more likely carelessness.
But I 100% agree with your last statement. And men who don't protect themselves are in no position to complain afterwards.

LilElvis

Petra_70 wrote: »

I reckon around 1 in 5 women who get pregnant accidently, and decide to keep it are genuine accidents ... The rest are planned.

What you "reckon" is hardly statistical proof though is it?

It's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but I can't see how you could arrive at "one in five". It's just a number you pulled out of the air.

Person_one

Petra_70 wrote: »

I reckon around 1 in 5 women who get pregnant accidently, and decide to keep it are genuine accidents ... The rest are planned.

Have you considered a job with the ONS? You appear to have a gift...

onlyroz

Petra_70 wrote: »

I reckon around 1 in 5 women who get pregnant accidently, and decide to keep it are genuine accidents ... The rest are planned.

Any links to back up your claim?

No contraception is 100% effective. Next you'll be claiming that men shouldn't have to pay child support because they were "tricked" into becoming fathers.

lemonpopcorn

Petra_70 wrote: »

Absolutely. I refuse to believe that most 'accidental' pregnancies (where they decide to keep the baby,) are accidental at all, as I have seen it happen all too often.

And I don't believe for a second that women who 'accidently' get pregnant and decide to keep it, do so because of any religious or ethical or psychological reasons, or because 'there is never a perfect time to have a child so I may as well have it now,' or 'I thought I could never get pregnant...!' Yeah right! Perhaps it may be true for a few women, but not for most. In most cases, the pregnancy is planned!

In addition, if I was a man, and me and my partner had agreed to not have kids for some years (or not at all) and she piped up that she had 'accidently' fallen pregnant, and was keeping it, I would be absolutely furious. What right does any woman have to railroad any man into parenthood when he probably didn't want it yet? (Or at all even!)

These kind of women will then make the man out to be a monster when he doesn't stay with with her. I agree with 'Vestan Pance;' men should always use contraception too, especially if the woman is childless, and approaching 30 - or over 30 - because that is when they start to get their biological clocks ticking, and seem to 'accidently' get pregnant rather easily.

I reckon around 1 in 5 women who get pregnant accidently, and decide to keep it are genuine accidents ... The rest are planned.

In my case yes my two sons were accidents, their older sister was planned, in the case of my sons my contraception failed twice (pill and IUD) in the case of the IUD it still didn't come out when he was born and had to be removed via D&C some months after he was born.
I took the pill correctly and had been on it for a number of years so knew what I was doing with it, the IUD was fitted correctly and had been in for approx 3.5 yrs, my consultant gynaecologist believes that at those times I was extremely fertile and considering our daughter took 9 months of trying to conceive her then having her may have ramped up my fertility.

I kept my children and decided not to abort them as I object to it, other people choose to do it and that is their choice, I know that I could never do it even if the pregnancy was a result of rape.

Please do not tar everyone with the same brush, yes some women do accidently on purpose get pregnant however quite a few of us do not, certainly a lot of woman who I've spoken to who've been in that situation were doing everything correctly in terms of contraception to prevent a pregnancy.

Also an unplanned pregnancy doesn't just affect a man, it affects the women as well, it certainly did in my case resulting in losing a career I loved and having to change career paths all because I chose not to abort my child.

Gigervamp

When I was still with my ex husband, at one point, we were using condoms. One condom split completely and I got pregnant.
For my own moral reasons, I wouldn't have an abortion, and the subject didn't even come up. We were going to have the baby (it would have been our 3rd) but I miscarried.

My pregnancy certainly wasn't "accidentally on purpose" and the same goes for many other accidental pregnancies. They are exactly that, and to accuse us who have had them, of being deceitful because we would have had an abortion if we didn't really want a baby is offensive.