Do you believe in guardian angels?

peachyprice

runawaybride wrote: »

the way i justify in my own mind why some people do and some people dont get help is this.
1) you need to need it
2) you need to ask for it consciously or subconsciously.
3) you need to believe it
4) there needs to be a way to help
5) divine intervention wont cause detriment to anyone else either now or in the future.
6) you need to say thank you for the help

Ah, now I see why young children who are abused or have life threatening illnesses don't get help, they're too young to understand how to get it. It all makes sense now.

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Luck is a measurement of your outcomes from probabilistic events. If you consistently 'beat the odds' you can consider yourself lucky - even if your measurement of results isn't correct (Since you can't know how things will turn out in the future)

e.g. flip a coin, and guess. If you get the first 3 correct, but stop at 3 flips, you would consider yourself lucky. If your next 3 guesses were wrong, you wouldn't consider yourself lucky.

You have a lifetime 'odds' of dying in a car crash of 1 in 240 (http://www.medicine.ox.ac.uk/bandolier/booth/Risk/trasnsportpop.html) so to be honest.

So, if you knew 300 people, and one died in a car crash - would you call them unlucky? I'd call them a statistical norm

Humans are rubbish at considering statistics, absolutely terrible. Oh, and I would say the 'guardian angel believers' are the ones that need to prove their court, not the realists.

peachyprice

lazer wrote: »

Wouldn't have made a difference to my accident - no one else involved, just a slippy road, so if I had have been doing 10mph faster probably wouldn't have walked away so easily.

If you'd have been travelling 10mph slower the accident may never have happened in the first place, you'd think your guardian angel would have made you slow down.

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peachyprice wrote: »

If you'd have been travelling 10mph slower the accident may never have happened in the first place, you'd think your guardian angel would have made you slow down.

We haven't decided what the guardian angel actually did? Maybe they did slow the OP down, and going much faster would have killed them. Maybe they made engineers of the car company test out one particular roll scenario, so the roof was strengthened a bit more than would need. Who knows

lostinrates

juliebunny wrote: »

Hope they get that other driver - what a schmuck for not stopping - unfortunately it's drivers like that who really make me detest 4x4 drivers.

Do you know some 4x4 drivers from a volunteer network to help others when road / driving conditions aren't safe for normal cars? ( sever snow, flooding etc) are they to be hated too? Or the ones who need them due to where they live and the nature of their jobs?

Or the ones whose lives were also saved in rollovers by their four by fours?

Some 4x4 drivers don't drive considerately. Is their a type of car whose drivers all drive well and considerately, I have not seen that one yet!

Person_one

runawaybride wrote: »

and of course you have concrete evidence to prove this which you will post on here to prove what people have been trying to prove or discount for hundreds of years ?

You can't 'prove' the non-existence of something that doesn't exist, its a logical impossibility. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim that something exists.

Never heard of Russell's teapot?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russell's_teapot

Person_one

SavingPennies wrote: »

I think what mgdavid means is, for example, when you get offered a great new job or if you've got a good figure or if you go on a once in a lifetime trip and people say "aren't you so lucky" but actually its more your actions/behaviours which have led to these things happening.

Our achievements are only ever partly down to our actions, chance and coincidence and luck all play a huge role in what happens to us.

We all still like to take credit of course!

spookyhelen

Was it a evil Guardian Angel looking after the 4x4 driver? maybe thats how they managed to get away with it?

SavingPennies_2

Person_one wrote: »

Our achievements are only ever partly down to our actions, chance and coincidence and luck all play a huge role in what happens to us.

We all still like to take credit of course!

Ah yes, I agree chance and coincidence play some role, but luck?

Lol we take the credit when it goes well, but things don't go our way it's not our fault "it just wasnt meant to be":rotfl:

Person_one

SavingPennies wrote: »

Ah yes, I agree chance and coincidence play some role, but luck?

Lol we take the credit when it goes well, but things don't go our way it's not our fault "it just wasnt meant to be":rotfl:

I suppose I'm using luck in the 'dumb luck/pure chance' meaning of the word rather than the idea that its some actual thing people 'have'.