Absurd financial demands from ex-fiancee

egoode

Richard__G wrote: »

That is what she wants yes, but there is no money owed to her here. In reality she wants me to pay for stuff she couldn't be bothered to take with her.

That is not what Attachment of Earnings was designed for!

Just calling the boss won't get her what she wants she will need a court order for the Attachment of Earnings however the only thing the courts are likely to rule in her favour is with regards to the car finance.

Personally I think if she can't be bothered to take the other stuff and sell it herself then she should take any offer you make if you aren't that fussed about whether she does or doesn't take the items.

NinjaSavingKat

Has she returned that engagement ring yet? How much was that worth? Some might bewail the need for OP to ask for it back etc and that since he gave it to her it's now hers - no it isn't - she has reneged ( is that the right word?) on the acceptance of the proposal therefore should no longer require or hang on to the token of said proposal.

I would hand her back the furniture and let her pay for storage - I know you are playing fair in that she doesn't not have somewhere to put it - but why? If she has the audacity to call your boss, be that childish that a letter of this nature has been sent to you then why pay for the furniture - unless you love it??

If anything man - get a new bed!...

Principia_2

Richard__G wrote: »

Yeah, that's invented.

Sounds like people are trying to play you - might be worth keeping a cool head, staying factual and keep any communication including texts.


Try not to escalate the whole thing, it sounds like people are very angry so things can get even more fraught if you get angry as well.

tesuhoha

Why don't you take the value of the ring off what you supposedly owe her?

duchy

NinjaSavingKat wrote: »

Has she returned that engagement ring yet? How much was that worth? Some might bewail the need for OP to ask for it back etc and that since he gave it to her it's now hers - no it isn't - she has reneged ( is that the right word?) on the acceptance of the proposal therefore should no longer require or hang on to the token of said proposal.

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Morally she might be expected to return the ring however legally it is hers and it would be a waste of time trying to bring the ring into the mix when there is very clear case law.

If she is serious about getting an attachment of earnings - she'd need to go to court and the first thing any solicitor worth his salt would tell her is...ring is yours, car is yours as finance is in your sole name .

pete428

i would be contacting judge judy asap....

on a serious note, its unfortunate that its come to this, maybe someone is telling her to do all this... if i were in your position i would tell her to come and get all the stuff asap, as you are a storage fee for every day the stuff is in your possession. Also when she comes for the car i would tell her that you put £20 of fuel in it and want it back.....

Also maybe its better this happening now rather than after you were married....

Person_one

tesuhoha wrote: »

Why don't you take the value of the ring off what you supposedly owe her?

The ring was a gift, unless they had some sort of contract drawn up at the same time.

You don't need a ring to get engaged, the OP chose to buy one for her.

tom9980

You need to be careful about the car, if finance is being paid on it and she stops paying you will find yourself without the car sharpish even if you give her the cash to pay the finance she may not pay it. She has the ability to cause you problems with the whole car situation so i would give it back and get another just to avoid that major hassle.

To value the car you can go to autotrader and find comparables, another way is half way down the homepage stick the reg in, mileage and click private seller and a step or 2 later it suggests a value for you.

Finally i would then leave the situation as whoever has the remaining stuff in their possession keeps it. Only claim things back if she pushes for more, a judge wont be happy if this went to court frankly, she would be barking to try.

Richard__G

Thanks everyone.

I have no desire to have the ring back in reality - in fact I wanted her to keep it in case we got back together - and I know I have no legal case to ask for it. I mentioned it because I don't understand why a woman would ever want to keep a ring from a failed engagement, and I'd rather she doesn't benefit from selling it!

Re: the car, I'd imagine she isn't stupid enough to stop paying - that causes problems for her - so hopefully we can agree a fair price for that and the rest of the stuff. Though if she proves intractable on the first hand/second hand conundrum, then I will absolutely call her bluff and tell her to come and get it all.

It's all been heartbreaking, particularly as the reason I fell for her was that I thought she wouldn't hurt a fly. Sadly that innocence and lack of worldliness means that she is letting her father convince her of all these mad concepts.

He'd have made a blinding father-in-law.

On a lighter note, if by some miracle we ever did get back together now, I'd struggle to say with a straight face "I (Richard) take you (Hannah)"

mountainofdebt

I still think its washing dirty line in public but there we go

As far as the finance company is concerned,if you do agree to pay her a lump sum then what I would recommend is that she gets a settlement figure and you bacs over the amount to the finance company quoting the agreement number yourself.If you agree to give her a higher figure then you can pay her the difference

You may want to have a written agreement whereby she is obliged to give you a copy of the letter that the finance company will send her saying that they now have no longer have a financial interest in the vehicle.