Getting really frustrated with DH being overweight

FBaby

Says that my husband who is 15 st 10 and 5 ft 11 is OBESE. (He is in the blue zone.) Absolute rubbish! He is not skinny, but he is fit as hell with no health issues, he cycles to work, (10 mile round trip,) walks about 5-8 miles a week (with me,) and the last check up at the docs showed low cholesterol, and a healthy heart and lungs.

How old is he? I don't think 10 miles cycling a day and some walking is what I would consider fit as hell at all unless he is in hi 60 +.Again, unless he is in his 50+, it is not unsual at all to have a normal cholesterol level despite being overweight. It all gets to you years later.

paulineb_2

Its possible to be very fit in certain sports but not others. I could do a couple of spin classes back to back. Id struggle doing a couple of HIIT classes back to back.

Any exercise is better than none, but people really should be doing cardio (of the make it count cardio variety), lifting weights and eating well.

Of course people need to start with small changes, but you really need to make bigger ones and mix up your workout routine often plus a healthy diet to have decent fitness and keep it at that level.

It goes back to what someone was saying earlier about people being in denial about what they eat, I bet there are people who go to the gym 5 times a week, do hardly anything and think they are fit when they actually aren't.

The phrase you can't out train a bad diet springs to mind as well. I know people who teach classes whose diet isn't as good as it could be.

DS4215

FBaby wrote: »

Then it is more likely that you are the one who need their head looking at. Except in the circumstances of a very tall man naturally very stocky who does body building (ie. not very common), a 36'' is very unlikely to be healthy.

Even when I was running 30-40miles per week, my waist was only just down to 36" at my thinnest. I'm 6"2' and was about 14stone at the time (although I have put on since then) and currently 38" waist. With a 28" waist, I'd snap in two in a strong wind!

jaylee3

We're going to have to agree to differ I'm afraid, because my husband AND me are as healthy and fit as anyone who fits these weight and BMI charts standards.

Thank you Pauline though, for that post that confirms that a 37" waist IS OK for a man. It's absolute rubbish that a 36" waist on a man means he is obese...especially if he almost 6 feet tall!

And thank you to DS4215 (post 115 ^^^.) Yes, a 28" waist on a grown adult man IS too skinny, and of the 6 people I have mentioned this too in the last hour, everyone agrees. And they are people from different walks of life, with different fitness levels.

Not everyone is the same, and these charts should be taken with a pinch of salt. Sensible eating and regular, light exercise is all that is needed to live a healthy life. Nobody should even LOOK at these charts. Most of them are rubbish.

Seriously, if you think walking a lot and cycling 50 miles a week does not make someone fit, and you think a 36" waist makes a man obese, I really have nothing else to say to you.

We are not only on different pages, but in totally different books. Just because someone does not go to the gym, and does not run 20 miles a week, this doesn't mean they're not very fit! Good grief.

Just wanted to add THIS

http://www.calculator.net/ideal-weight-calculator.html?ctype=standard&cage=50&csex=m&cheightfeet=5&cheightinch=3&cheightmeter=180&x=83&y=16

It confirms that peoples 'ideal weight' and ideal BMI etc, varies quite a lot from chart to chart and many 'experts' have continually come up with different ideas of how much people should weigh.

I'm done. Over and out.

FBaby

Its possible to be very fit in certain sports but not others. I could do a couple of spin classes back to back

Again it is not a criticism, but I would consider doing two classes back to back as a definition of very fit. Every exercise is beneficial, but there is a big difference between exercising for the benefit of health, and to become very fit. I exercise 4 times a week, sometimes 5 and have done so for years. I am training to do a sprint triathlon and I think I am almost there. I do consider myself quite fit, but not close to being very fit.

Even when I was running 30-40miles per week, my waist was only just down to 36" at my thinnest. I'm 6"2' and was about 14stone at the time (although I have put on since then) and currently 38" waist. With a 28" waist, I'd snap in two in a strong wind!

Running won't make someone lose weight unless their diet is proportionate. However, I agree (and have started) that if you are tall and stocky, 36'' doesn't mean you are fat (but doesn't mean you are healthy either!

FBaby

We're going to have to agree to differ I'm afraid, because my husband AND me are as healthy and fit as anyone who fits these weight and BMI charts standards.

it would help if you actually explained on which basis you consider yourself to be healthy and fit despite finding yourself (or your husband) in the obese category of the BMI charts. Which parameters do you consider to be better suited for you and your husband?

~Chameleon~

paulineb wrote: »

Waist to hip ratio is apparently a better indicator of overall health than BMI.

t easier to measure. For women:

• Ideal: less than 80cm (32")
• High: 80cm to 88cm (32" to 35")
• Very high: more than 88cm (35")

For men:

• Ideal: less than 94cm (37")
• High: 94cm to 102cm (37" to 40")
• Very high: more than 102cm (40")

How to calculate waist-to-hip ratio

Working out the risk to your health is simple. Using a tape measure, take the following steps:

1. Measure your hips
2. Measure your waist
3. Divide the waist number by the hip number

A ratio of 1.0 or more in men or 0.85 or more in women indicates that you are carrying too much weight around your middle. This puts you at increased risk of diseases that are linked to obesity, such as type 2 diabetes and heart disease.

I was about to post something about this so thanks for saving me the effort :T

paulineb_2

FBaby wrote: »

Again it is not a criticism, but I would consider doing two classes back to back as a definition of very fit. Every exercise is beneficial, but there is a big difference between exercising for the benefit of health, and to become very fit. I exercise 4 times a week, sometimes 5 and have done so for years. I am training to do a sprint triathlon and I think I am almost there. I do consider myself quite fit, but not close to being very fit.



Running won't make someone lose weight unless their diet is proportionate. However, I agree (and have started) that if you are tall and stocky, 36'' doesn't mean you are fat (but doesn't mean you are healthy either!

The thing is though, I could do a couple of spin classes back to back, but Id still struggle with other exercise classes.

I do actually do HIIT classes back to back, but I am done by the end of it. On a Friday I do a metafit class followed by a grit plyo class and by the end of the grit plyo class I can hardly feel my legs
Just the way the classes are scheduled on the timetable that day.
Even if I worked really hard in spin, I could do 45 min classes back to back without feeling as knackered as I do when Im doing a double HIIT class.

I struggle with running, Ive done 10s and even a half marathon in the past and when I did a triathlon (sprint), a couple of years ago it was the running part (only 3 miles), that slowed my time down. I think it is very possible to be fit at one sport and then you try another and you are literally blowing out of your backside, thats how I feel when Im running, even a mile, I just don't like it and Im no good at it.

So someone could think they are really fit because they cycle a lot, ask them to do 20 burpees in a row and they might think it could be the end of them.

~Chameleon~

paulineb wrote: »

Im just thinking about what a vision Id be working out in lycra

And legwarmers and a headband. Like something out of the kids from fame.

Definitely something that should remain firmly in the eighties

paulineb_2

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Definitely something that should remain firmly in the eighties

I saw a clip of beverley callards video the other week on tv, must have been from the 80s or early 90s, leotard over lyrca leggings.