Getting really frustrated with DH being overweight

tesuhoha

jaylee3 wrote: »

I'm sorry, but anyone who follows these weight and BMI charts to the letter needs their head looking at. They are all different for a start, and they are ALL too severe and strict, and they rarely have different ones for male and female ... EG, THIS one from Slimming World.

http://www.slimmingworld.com/images/losing-weight/bmi_chart.jpg

Says that my husband who is 15 st 10 and 5 ft 11 is OBESE. (He is in the blue zone.) Absolute rubbish! He is not skinny, but he is fit as hell with no health issues, he cycles to work, (10 mile round trip,) walks about 5-8 miles a week (with me,) and the last check up at the docs showed low cholesterol, and a healthy heart and lungs.

Another website we looked at said he should be 10 stone 11 pounds to be healthy. He would look like he needed to be hospitalised at that weight. Almost 6 foot and ten stone eleven pounds!

ANOTHER website said that I should be between 8 and 9 stone for my height, yet I have been that weight before, and look dreadful. I look much better at around 10 and a half stone. My health was the same as my husbands after MY health check. Everything was fine.

These weight charts should be taken with a pinch of salt.

BTW, a 28" waist on a grown man is insanely thin. 36" sounds much healthier to me. Obviously we are not on the same page here, and have completely different ideas of what someone's weight should be.

Its not a human's natural state to be big. If you go back to the 70s for instance it was very unusual to see a fat person. The average waist size for men then was 28/30 and a woman's size 10 was actually smaller than it is today. People didn't have to do massive amounts of exercise just to try to keep the weight off. There was no gym industry.

We have been easily persuaded that fat is okay by today's society because we want to eat all the copious amounts of tasty food on offer. We have a diet and gym industry that wants to keep us fat. Shops have modified their clothes sizes so people think they are slimmer than they are. It is very difficult now to buy a man's size 30 waist.

Throughout history people would overeat when there was food because there were also times of famine when they would be starving. We seemingly still have this instinct to gorge but don't have the hard times to keep the weight off.

However, this is only a short period of history where there is food in abundance and it will not last. This country is not even self sufficient in its food production so if anything went wrong we would all suffer.

So a size 28 waist on a man is not too thin; it is just that our view is becoming distorted.

paulineb_2

mumps wrote: »

I've never seen it but I must look out for it, forgetting you had a pie inside a burger bun is hard to understand. Actually eating a pie in a burger bun is hard to understand or is that just me?

Might depend in where you are in the country. Its a northern/Scottish thing to put certain foodstuffs in a roll or in a sandwich, not saying all people do it, but some do.

claire16c

mumps wrote: »

I've never seen it but I must look out for it, forgetting you had a pie inside a burger bun is hard to understand. Actually eating a pie in a burger bun is hard to understand or is that just me?

No I had never seen someone do that before in my life. I was in shock watching it I mean you have pastry why would you add a bun!

And he was on a tv show saying he couldn't understand why he couldn't loose weight..

Georgiegirl256

claire16c wrote: »

That programme is scary. Like the man who swore blind he ate salad or sandwiches for lunch but actually ate a salad followed by a pie INSIDE a burger bun.

How can you just 'forget' you ate that?

Or the lady who said all her food was home made but forgot to put on her food diary she was swigging back red bull & vodkas whilst cooking it, and then having more with the massive plate of food?!

That programme really annoys me....people are just in total denial about what they shove into their mouth.

Georgiegirl256

tesuhoha wrote: »

Its not a human's natural state to be big. If you go back to the 70s for instance it was very unusual to see a fat person. The average waist size for men then was 28/30 and a woman's size 10 was actually smaller than it is today. People didn't have to do massive amounts of exercise just to try to keep the weight off. There was no gym industry.

We have been easily persuaded that fat is okay by today's society because we want to eat all the copious amounts of tasty food on offer. We have a diet and gym industry that wants to keep us fat. Shops have modified their clothes sizes so people think they are slimmer than they are. It is very difficult now to buy a man's size 30 waist.

Throughout history people would overeat when there was food because there were also times of famine when they would be starving. We seemingly still have this instinct to gorge but don't have the hard times to keep the weight off.

However, this is only a short period of history where there is food in abundance and it will not last. This country is not even self sufficient in its food production so if anything went wrong we would all suffer.

So a size 28 waist on a man is not too thin; it is just that our view is becoming distorted.

Exactly. People's views on what's normal and what's not are become increasingly distorted.

paulineb_2

tesuhoha wrote: »

Its not a human's natural state to be big. If you go back to the 70s for instance it was very unusual to see a fat person. The average waist size for men then was 28/30 and a woman's size 10 was actually smaller than it is today. People didn't have to do massive amounts of exercise just to try to keep the weight off. There was no gym industry.

We have been easily persuaded that fat is okay by today's society because we want to eat all the copious amounts of tasty food on offer. We have a diet and gym industry that wants to keep us fat. Shops have modified their clothes sizes so people think they are slimmer than they are. It is very difficult now to buy a man's size 30 waist.

Throughout history people would overeat when there was food because there were also times of famine when they would be starving. We seemingly still have this instinct to gorge but don't have the hard times to keep the weight off.

However, this is only a short period of history where there is food in abundance and it will not last. This country is not even self sufficient in its food production so if anything went wrong we would all suffer.

So a size 28 waist on a man is not too thin; it is just that our view is becoming distorted.

I dont agree that the gym industry wants to keep people fat. Its not just fat people who go to the gym.

I make it clear to anyone who does my classes that people of all shapes, sizes and fitness levels can attend and that weight loss doesn't need to be everyone's goal.

What I dont agree with are shakes, potions such as herbalife, body by vi. I know a lot of fitness instructors who have jumped on the get rich quick bandwagon, Im not one of them, neither is my brother who is a personal trainer.

I also know its possible to buy home exercise kit and do stuff at home, Im not someone who works out in that way, my gym membership is something that is of massive value to me. Id say that slimming clubs need people to lose/gain/lose/gain to make money out of them. There are many many people who don't have weight issues who enjoy working out, I see them all the time when I do classes.

Any gym instructor/personal trainer worth their salt will help people achieve a healthy lifestyle without trying to promote the latest potion or shake of the day. Sometimes gym staff are limited in the advice they can give out, if you dont have a nutrition qualification you shouldnt be giving out nutrition advice for example.

Its got to come from within, motivation to exercise and/or lose weight. I dont blame the gyms that theres a boom every January and people don't stick with it, its people's own fault that motivation dips and if people pay a gym membership and don't go, can't blame anyone else apart from yourself for that.

FBaby

I'm sorry, but anyone who follows these weight and BMI charts to the letter needs their head looking at.

BTW, a 28" waist on a grown man is insanely thin. 36" sounds much healthier to me.

Then it is more likely that you are the one who need their head looking at. Except in the circumstances of a very tall man naturally very stocky who does body building (ie. not very common), a 36'' is very unlikely to be healthy.

My husband is 28''. He is 5'10'' but quite small bones. He is very physically active and always has been. His fat content is very low. His body is perfect and certainly not skinny.

paulineb_2

Waist to hip ratio is apparently a better indicator of overall health than BMI.

t easier to measure. For women:

• Ideal: less than 80cm (32")
• High: 80cm to 88cm (32" to 35")
• Very high: more than 88cm (35")

For men:

• Ideal: less than 94cm (37")
• High: 94cm to 102cm (37" to 40")
• Very high: more than 102cm (40")

How to calculate waist-to-hip ratio

Working out the risk to your health is simple. Using a tape measure, take the following steps:

1. Measure your hips
2. Measure your waist
3. Divide the waist number by the hip number

A ratio of 1.0 or more in men or 0.85 or more in women indicates that you are carrying too much weight around your middle. This puts you at increased risk of diseases that are linked to obesity, such as type 2 diabetes and heart disease.

~Chameleon~

Horace wrote: »

Maybe he is depressed and also fearful of what the GP will say to him and afraid of setting foot in the gym where everyone wears lycra.

Nobody in the gym wears lycra any more :rotfl:

paulineb_2

~Chameleon~ wrote: »

Nobody in the gym wears lycra any more :rotfl:

Im just thinking about what a vision Id be working out in lycra

And legwarmers and a headband. Like something out of the kids from fame.