Ex wife lied to where she has taken kids abroad. Where do i stand?

pesky85

My point is, everyone is jumping on the "controlling ex husband" bandwagon, when all I can see is a father who can't contact his children...who happen to be in a completely different place to what he was told.

I would be livid!

I'm not surprised he has left this thread either.

balletshoes

pesky85 wrote: »

My point is, everyone is jumping on the "controlling ex husband" bandwagon, when all I can see is a father who can't contact his children...who happen to be in a completely different place to what he was told.

I would be livid!

I'm not surprised he has left this thread either.

its all conjecture at this point anyway - the OP doesn't know that they are not going to/have been to Orlando on holiday, he was online on this thread for about 2 hours this evening talking about having tried to contact them, when Las Vegas is 8 hours behind and so it would have been early-mid morning there. The kids and ex-wife could be out and about having fun on their holidays without their apple devices (I would be). Just as they may have been if they were in Orlando and the OP wanted to contact the kids.

Hopefully they'll all get the OP's messages and when they get back to their apple devices they'll be able to reassure him that they are having a lovely holiday and they'll all be back as originally planned on the date the OP expects them to be home.

thegirlintheattic

The 'devices' maybe in the hotel safe. When we go on holiday phones, laptops and tablets are all put in the safe and are not taken out unless really needed.

Calien27

thegirlintheattic wrote: »

The 'devices' maybe in the hotel safe. When we go on holiday phones, laptops and tablets are all put in the safe and are not taken out unless really needed.

Good point!! I'm not sure I'd want two kids (under 10 I believe?) to be walking around with phones or whatever else they have, simply so the things don't get lost or stolen.

On the off chance the OP might still be reading, before you try and phone them make sure you Google "time in Vegas" it will tell you the exact time so you know you won't be calling late in the evening or the early hours of the morning when they're all asleep.

mountainofdebt

emsywoo123 wrote: »

I know OP has "gone", but why would she have had to give flight numbers and accommodation details? Is this not excessive?

I give these details to my mum when I go away if only for her peace of mind and if she needs to contact me in an emergency as she knows I won't have my phone switched on whilst abroad

Valli

Moonwax wrote: »

Hello

Hopefully someone can help, i am teying to get hold of a solicitor before the end of the week.

Story is, my ex wife asked to take my two children to orlando florida, to which i agreed. I was given their flight and accomodation details. But have just found out via social media she has infact taken them to las vegas so she can get married. I did not agree this and the kids thought they were going to orlando. Where do i stand? As i now do not know where they really are! We have shared care and NO residence order is in place.

With my parental resposibility i agreed only to Orlando.

I need to know if i should go to the police?

At the moment (unless the kids have been abducted, that is) this is a civil matter not a criminal one so it's not appropriate to involve the police unless you have genuine and pressing concerns for the health and wellbeing of the children.

DanE2010

Maybe her new husband planned a surprise wedding for her and she didnt know she was going to Vegas? There could be lots of different reasons why the kids are not in Florida, maybe they are going to Disneyland after Vegas?

No point jumping to conclusions, wait for them to get home and then calmly discuss the situation with her when you pick them up, no point getting the solicitors involved in something that could be sorted out maturely between yourselves.

"give her a stern talking to" She's gonna have a lovely welcome home from her hols isnt she :rotfl: honestly keep your cool it wont do you any favours.

jellyhead

I have flight details and hotel details when my husband takes my eldest away. It's handy to know, for example when swine flu first hit mexico and new york, I knew where they were and could check whether or not they would be able to fly back in time for going back to school. Not everyone takes social media on holiday, and back then we didn't have it built into our phones (we're poor, lol).

When school take the children abroad they tell us the travel plans and the address of the hotel.

I think it's reasonable to want those details, but OP I don't think there's much you can do without looking like a killjoy who doesn't want his ex to enjoy her day. They're on holiday as a family, and you're not a part of that. You're angry that she lied, but if you post anything on facebook or bombard your kids with messages you're going to look unhinged. Sorry.

Your children are probably having too good a time to think about looking at devices, or perhaps they're in the safe. I bet the grandparents are babysitting instead of bar-crawling. Try to relax

Richard53

jellyhead wrote: »

Your children are probably having too good a time to think about looking at devices, or perhaps they're in the safe.

Bad parenting. If you want to go out, get a babysitter.

:cool:

neverdespairgirl

aliasojo wrote: »

Well you're not going to like me for saying this but if there is no specific reason or past cause for you to be overly cautious, then you seem to me to be coming across as overly controlling and whilst I don't condone her not being honest, I'm not surprised she lied.

It's a short holiday, keep it in perspective otherwise the only ones that will suffer will be your kids.

It doesn't sounds remotely controlling to me. I'd be horrified if I thought my son was in place X and he turned out to be in place Y because his father lied to me! It's a completely wrong thing to do, IMO.