furious with school

aliasojo

Blackpool_Saver wrote: »

I saw that she thought it was acceptable/would condone it, so very likely has seen it within the family, of course I cannot be certain but on balance of probability I would expect it to be so. Not qualified in psychology BUT learned in the school of common sense.

Well clearly there were different methods of teaching used at this 'school of common sense' because it seems to me your school featured heavily on 'assumption' rather than encouraging an opinion based on the actual fact given in a specific situation.

MSE at it's best. *shakes head*

OP, any update?

balletshoes

thehappybutterfly wrote: »

Dearie me - there's not a lot of people in support of the poster is there? I am though. I was bullied at school too and some of the insults have really stuck with me. I still believe I'm ugly because of what someone said to me 30 years ago. I was so shy and lacked confidence that I never stood up for myself but my god, I wish I had had the courage to punch some of the bullies! It's the only 'language' they understand.

I'll get flamed for this but I don't care - I've had two double vodkas!
My son when he was in 2nd year (year 9) punched the school bully in the face and I applauded him. Yes, my son got punished for it but I was actually quite proud of him - he's very quiet and a polite young man but the little bullying !!!!!! deserved it. He was picking on boys younger than him and my son decided enough was enough.

"Sticks and stones" my !!!!! - I'd rather have been battered.

But were you furious with the school? Thats what I don't support in the OPs posts - the school didn't know, and the parents didn't know, that the OPs daughter was being verbally bullied. So when the OPs daughter was caught hitting another pupil, the school punished her. And thats the right thing to do, in my opinion.
The OP hasn't said anything so far about the school's take on the verbal bullying that went on before, maybe the OP doesn't know whats happened yet?

duchy

The OP had a meeting with the school on Friday yet has chosen not to come back and discuss what has happened <shrug>

Having worked in a secondary school and spent many lunchtimes sorting out bullying issues as the kids knew they'd get a hearing from me (the school was one that had a bullying policy that was largely ignored- but that's another story)-my take is......

I find it really hard to believe that *no-one* knew the child was been verbally bullied - other kids would have seen it - and in year 7 -if asked most will speak up . So either the school will have found out she *was* been bullied and treat that as a seperate case OR it was an excuse - there was a verbal spat and the OP's daughter overstepped the mark.
Two "crimes" two cases - Either the OP's daughter will have learned to take issues to her parents or the school before they escalate ....or she'll have learned to keep her hands to herself.

thehappybutterfly

balletshoes wrote: »

But were you furious with the school? Thats what I don't support in the OPs posts - the school didn't know, and the parents didn't know, that the OPs daughter was being verbally bullied. So when the OPs daughter was caught hitting another pupil, the school punished her. And thats the right thing to do, in my opinion.
The OP hasn't said anything so far about the school's take on the verbal bullying that went on before, maybe the OP doesn't know whats happened yet?

School never contacted me about it and just meted out the punishment but I wasn't furious with them at all. But.... if they had called the police without informing me as the OP has stated, then yes I would be furious. I think that's the crux of the matter isn't it? Although in this case, it's quite possible that it wasn't the actual police - 11 year olds have a tendency to exaggerate things. Hopefully everything has just been blown out of proportion.

balletshoes

thehappybutterfly wrote: »

School never contacted me about it and just meted out the punishment but I wasn't furious with them at all. But.... if they had called the police without informing me as the OP has stated, then yes I would be furious. I think that's the crux of the matter isn't it? Although in this case, it's quite possible that it wasn't the actual police - 11 year olds have a tendency to exaggerate things. Hopefully everything has just been blown out of proportion.

Hadn't it been established earlier in the thread that it was the community liaison police, who already have a relationship with the school, and who already visit the school on a frequent basis?

Own_My_Own

I wonder how many of the posters who think name calling is 'nothing really' complain about the kids of today.The kids who go around shouting abuse in the street and are just plain rude. These kids that believe nobody can touch them.
How many of them have uttered the words 'That kid needs a good slap' or similar.

Some of the comments here have been laughable.
She must have been taught to slap a face.
A lady was rude to me in Asda, ( but just the once when I was an adult, not every day when I was 11)

For some sad reason, they are people on here who just like to feel righteous, no matter what the thread is about.

thehappybutterfly

balletshoes wrote: »

Hadn't it been established earlier in the thread that it was the community liaison police, who already have a relationship with the school, and who already visit the school on a frequent basis?

Oops, I must have missed that info. In that case, there's no need to be angry with the school then. Hmmm, OP - best you don't go in all guns blazing?

valkirn

duchy wrote: »

I find it really hard to believe that *no-one* knew the child was been verbally bullied - other kids would have seen it - and in year 7 -if asked most will speak up . So either the school will have found out she *was* been bullied and treat that as a seperate case OR it was an excuse - there was a verbal spat and the OP's daughter overstepped the mark.
Two "crimes" two cases - Either the OP's daughter will have learned to take issues to her parents or the school before they escalate ....or she'll have learned to keep her hands to herself.

You may find it hard to believe, i found it hard to believe my daughter was suffering in school for a year before she broke down and said something to me.( i was aware she was unhappy but had put it down to her not liking having to move schools)

She had been to her teacher for help to sort things out but was told to ignore said bully or move to another seat away from the bully or talk to me and arrange for me to have her change classes away from the bully.

All i saw when my daughter had finally had enough of being bullied and victimised by her school for being a victim of bullying, was the bully being protected, nothing was done to try and stop the bullies behaviour and this girl was well known for bullying, instead its move the victim put the victim somewhere else.

I had the police brought in as it turned violent,

And as much as i dont condone violence i was quietly please when i heard the bully had got her just deserts!

It about time bullying was punished properly, infact its about time any crime was properly punished, instead of this softly softly, holier than thou, do gooders brigade carp.