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  • Mado
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    edited 28 November 2012 at 8:55PM
    zaksmum wrote: »
    I would never allow my child or grandchild to remain seated while I stood!:eek: Or indeed while any adult needed a seat. It's just basic good manners for a child to offer their seat to an adult. I'm amazed anybody thinks otherwise.
    Well, travel a little and you will find that a large part of the world would find your views very strange.
    As a healthy adult, I would never sit down while my 5 to 10 years old child (ie too big to sit on my lap) stands.Also, I have only 1 lap and 3 children.
    And I don't think I lack basic manners. FYI, I grew up on the continent; my British husband thinks the same as me.
    I lost my job as a cricket commentator for saying “I don’t want to bore you with the details”.Milton Jones
  • zaksmum wrote: »
    I would never allow my child or grandchild to remain seated while I stood!:eek: Or indeed while any adult needed a seat. It's just basic good manners for a child to offer their seat to an adult. I'm amazed anybody thinks otherwise.

    I am really interested to know why you think an adult is entitled to a seat over a child, and not just "well thats the way I was brought up".

    An adult is much more capable of balancing themselves than a child and yes children do get tired or is it just precious adults who get tired?
  • Person_one wrote: »
    So much for 'suffer the little children'.

    Look after all children and protect them yes. Like them all, not necessarily.
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  • Person_one
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    Look after all children and protect them yes. Like them all, not necessarily.

    Calling any of them scrotums fits in where exactly?
  • seven-day-weekend
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    edited 28 November 2012 at 10:02PM
    Person_one wrote: »
    Calling any of them scrotums fits in where exactly?

    As long as I do not call them that to their face, and don't treat them that way, does it matter? I call my husband pigface sometimes, it doesn't mean I treat him like a pig.

    Again, an attempt at humour that you have failed to understand.
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  • Shepherd1 wrote: »
    I am really interested to know why you think an adult is entitled to a seat over a child, and not just "well thats the way I was brought up".

    An adult is much more capable of balancing themselves than a child and yes children do get tired or is it just precious adults who get tired?

    It is considered to be good manners.
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  • As long as I do not call them that to their face, and don't treat them that way, does it matter?

    Again, an attempt at humour that you have failed to understand.

    I fail to see the humour in it, calling children scrotums is a vile description.
  • It is considered to be good manners.

    What is good manners?? expecting children to give their seat to an adult who refers to them as scrotums.
  • I can't be doing with having to defend myself yet again. Bye.
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  • Mado
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    edited 28 November 2012 at 10:21PM
    Just because they are children and they have to learn that, contrary to what they might think, their needs are not always going to be put before everybody else's.
    My children know their needs are not always going to be put before everybody else's.But not by giving up their seats to perfect strangers who present no obvious greater needs than theirs. If you are in a train that slowly fills up, do you give your seat to a random adult, on the basis that their need may come before yours?
    It's called treating children as intelligent beings; exactly what you appear to admire in continental children. It's the same as restaurant offering crap on children's menu, because many think that it's good enough for them rather than seek to offer real choices and develop their taste.
    I can't be doing with having to defend myself yet again. Bye.
    Is that because your views are contradictory?
    You admire the kids from Spain, yet you seem to feel disdain, at best, for most children.
    I lost my job as a cricket commentator for saying “I don’t want to bore you with the details”.Milton Jones
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