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Galaxy S3 or phone5?
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            Originally Posted by grumbler 
 It's Traffic View in Menu >> Layers of the Google Navigation app.
 It was the layers bit that was confusing me and what i was looking for on the menu but found it now:o
 So how does this map stop me getting stuck in traffic jams thats the i bit i am not getting now?
 Thanks and sorry
 On my standalone TT device, it can re-calculate a route (although I suspect if others have the same re-route a new jam maybe created) other than that you can decide to avoid the chosen section of high congestion.0
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 The map can't stop you. It helps you to avoid getting stuck.Originally Posted by grumbler 
 It's Traffic View in Menu >> Layers of the Google Navigation app.
 It was the layers bit that was confusing me and what i was looking for on the menu but found it now:o
 So how does this map stop me getting stuck in traffic jams thats the i bit i am not getting now?
 Thanks and sorry
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxB7bqkmXtI0
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 Doesn't play a big part in my thinking, (although I accept it does play a part in other peoples thinking) I'm more interested in what the phone can do. Apps are a secondary consideration.baby_frogmella wrote: »Well i would have thought app availability would play a big part when choosing a smartphone. Or should you only make calls and admire the curves on your shiny new £500 smartphone? Then perhaps a £50 phone could do the same job?
 I have a Nokia N8 which has even less apps than Windows Phone and yet I don't feel as though I'm missing out on anything, I've got most of the apps I need/want and my phone does what I want it to do.
 Which essential apps are missing from Windows Phone?0
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            Doesn't play a big part in my thinking, (although I accept it does play a part in other peoples thinking) I'm more interested in what the phone can do. Apps are a secondary consideration.
 I have a Nokia N8 which has even less apps than Windows Phone and yet I don't feel as though I'm missing out on anything, I've got most of the apps I need/want and my phone does what I want it to do.
 Which essential apps are missing from Windows Phone?
 I'm sirprised that the windows has more apps, the OVI was the 1st app store? Was it not Nokia that started the app thing with mobile handsets?0
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            It was, Symbian had apps years before Nokia put an app store together, I remember having an TV remote app on my N80 way back.
 They started it in 2007 iirc (it was called Download!), a year before iOS had apps, people seem to forget that though.
 Remember, Symbian's been given an end of life date so no ones developing for it and Nokia switch to Windows Phone means more people have moved over there which has allowed it to overtake the Nokia Store.
 The Windows Marketplace reached 100,000 apps "]faster than the Android Market and only took 4 months longer than the App Store, so it stands to reason that all these apps that people claim are missing will come to Windows Phone. I think that the sales of the WP8 phones will probably determine how fast the apps come.0
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            thank you very much every oneSpending my time reading how to fix PC's,instead of looking at Facebook.0
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            Are you saying that Windows Phone isn't a viable alternative to iOS and Android simply because it has less apps?
 Yes.
 That is after all what most people use on a smartphone. The apps.
 Put it like this, one of the things I use a lot on my iPhone is Sky Go. There is no way of using that on Windows Phone.0
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 Isn't that a bit simplistic? If it's all about apps, why did anyone buy the original iPhone?WelshBluebird wrote: »Yes.
 That is after all what most people use on a smartphone. The apps.
 Put it like this, one of the things I use a lot on my iPhone is Sky Go. There is no way of using that on Windows Phone.0
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 AFAIK the iphone 2g wasn't a bestseller, the iphone really took off after the launch of 3gs by which time Apple had a good range of apps. A smartphone is almost like a mini laptop, its useless without decent apps...after all no-one would buy a desktop or a laptop if there was only a limited range of programs they could use. Not everyone is happy with the stock email, browser, sat nav apps on a smartphone...you should have alternatives to choose from, eg i prefer navfree to google maps as the former uses openstreetmaps (wikipedia of maps) which is more up to date than google.Isn't that a bit simplistic? If it's all about apps, why did anyone buy the original iPhone?
 As for banking apps, its extremely useful to use a dedicated bank app on your smartphone. Yes many banks do have mobile friendly websites, but as soon as you log onto their internet banking system, the website reverts to the desktop version and becomes not very user friendly.0
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 It wasn't a bestseller but they still managed to sell over 4.5 million of them which isn't a small amount of phones. If apps were all that mattered, it should have been a complete flop, all it had was a pretty user interface.baby_frogmella wrote: »AFAIK the iphone 2g wasn't a bestseller, the iphone really took off after the launch of 3gs by which time Apple had a good range of apps.
 I agree with this to an extent but the only apps people are citing as missing is Sky Go and BBC iPlayer. If people don't buy the phones the apps won't come. Android only really got a decent selection of apps in the last 2 years once people really started buying the phones.A smartphone is almost like a mini laptop, its useless without decent apps
 I don't think people think about apps when they buy a PC/laptop. They default to a Windows PC or a Mac if they want something different. Macs have limited apps in comparison to Windows and seem to sell quite well....after all no-one would buy a desktop or a laptop if there was only a limited range of programs they could use.
 Agree, and you have these alternatives on Windows Phone.Not everyone is happy with the stock email, browser, sat nav apps on a smartphone...you should have alternatives to choose from, eg i prefer navfree to google maps as the former uses openstreetmaps (wikipedia of maps) which is more up to date than google.
 I've never done banking on my phone so I can't really comment on the usefulness of them. However, I will say that this kind of app won't come unless enough people buy the phones and ask for the application to to written.As for banking apps, its extremely useful to use a dedicated bank app on your smartphone. Yes many banks do have mobile friendly websites, but as soon as you log onto their internet banking system, the website reverts to the desktop version and becomes not very user friendly.0
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