iOS 6 for iPhone 4s and iPad to include free satnav powered by TomTom

mrochester

matilda.cs wrote: »

I'm personally pleased a lot of people dont like Apple. They are an expensive toy, and I feel that I get the extra quality that I pay for.

It's just a shame that people always argue over whats better, apple or google.. Who cares.

Being an iUser I prefer my iDevices. Im used to them, and they work perfectly for my needs, and I'm pretty demanding.

Its totally understandable that people who dont use the features of an iDevice would say Android is better. Its cheaper and meets their own needs/expectations.

Just because people dont agree with what the users of other platforms look for in a device doesnt make one better then the other...

For me, the large selling points are;
iTunes. (I have hundreds of albums on my itunes library, and thats where I like it.)
The internet (apple's Safari is an amazing browser and accounts for more than half of ALL mobile browsing)
Media (gaming / tv / news) = Brilliant
Social networking

I know other platforms can offer this. But then I could get all these features from a ten year old desktop pc. the difference is that, for me, iOS makes everything simple, efficient, and effective.
Android is like sirloin steak. Its really good... But if you want to guarantee that you get the very best experience... go for Fillet.

You are so amazingly spot on!

gjchester

anewhope wrote: »

iPhone prices are kept at an artificially high level by Apple..

Whilst it may be true (I suspect it is but it's probalby impossible to prove) how is that relevent?


Bang & Olufsen or Bose are the same. In all the cases they are beautiful designs, and in the same cases sold as "Lifestyle" devices.

If you want the design you have to pay the cost the maker wants, if you want money saving you'd be using the cheapest possible, but it's moved from money saving to a personal choice, and in that all of us have different desires and preferences tha tmake us choose the phone we have.

thegoodman

anewhope wrote: »

iPhone prices are kept at an artificially high level by Apple.

This is true for all Companies. Unless every product is sold at cost, no profit to be made, the price will be as you call it "artificially high"

Name me one company who have not done that.

thegoodman

liubeliu wrote: »

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Plus on a Note screen, no sat nav available on an iPhone is ever going to knock it.

Samsung Note has its fans, but I don't think such a screen size could ever win mainstream acceptance as a smartphone.

Guys_Dad

Just become aware of a new apple product - the Itroll. This is an enhanced version of the longstanding Ifan, but has many features over and above the original Ifan.

Whereas the Ifan extols the virtue of other Iproducts, the Itroll takes it one stage further and beams knocking texts about a poor French lady called Anne D'Roid. This feature is sometimes envied by a few Ifan owners, but in general, is not particularly welcomed on Forum such as this.

It has another feature as well - a built-in Sat Nav. Regrettably, no matter what destination you put in, it will always lead you up a garden path.

Oh, and you have to be a Good Man to own an Itroll.

Anyone seen one? :rotfl::rotfl:

pingu

Not in reply to anyone but is it me or is matilda the english speaking version of goodman???[/QUOTE]

:D:D

Inews from Ibbc for Itroll

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-18441845

cubegame

So, the same question must accompany each and every new version of iSO must be asked.......

Can it multitask yet? And I mean in the proper sense.....not the Apple defined sense.

[Deleted User]

gjchester wrote: »

Whilst it may be true (I suspect it is but it's probalby impossible to prove) how is that relevent?

Apple dictate pricing to retailers, which is why you will always see their products at the same price wherever you shop. I am making the point that because other device manufacturers do not have this hold over retailers does not mean the product is inferior, as has been suggested by a previous poster.

Bang & Olufsen or Bose are the same. In all the cases they are beautiful designs, and in the same cases sold as "Lifestyle" devices.

Expensive devices that do not perform as well as their pricing level suggests, hmm..

If you want the design you have to pay the cost the maker wants, if you want money saving you'd be using the cheapest possible, but it's moved from money saving to a personal choice, and in that all of us have different desires and preferences tha tmake us choose the phone we have.

Choosing something instead of Apple does not make it a cheaper and inferior choice, it just happens that you can get equally as good - if not better - phones for less when you do.

thegoodman wrote: »

This is true for all Companies. Unless every product is sold at cost, no profit to be made, the price will be as you call it "artificially high"

Name me one company who have not done that.

You're missing the point, it isn't about selling a product at a loss (although predatory pricing is not uncommon) but retailers cannot negotiate prices with Apple nor do Apple's pricing reflect changes in the various markets components are sourced from therefore they are being kept at an artificially high level by Apple.

Other manufacturers do, which is why pricing does not remain fixed throughout the product lifestyle.

thegoodman wrote: »

Samsung Note has its fans, but I don't think such a screen size could ever win mainstream acceptance as a smartphone.

It's a popular handset, selling much more than was ever anticipated. Proves there is a market for large, powerful devices and giving consumers a choice is good.

liubeliu

anewhope wrote: »

iPhone prices are kept at an artificially high level by Apple.

Following your logic, an iPhone 3GS at £319 is comparable with a Samsung Galaxy S II at £339.

It is not the case.

Probably not comparable, look what you get. Bargain at only £20 more (very MSE :money:)

Better screen
Better resolution camera with flash
Double the memory
Better processor
Can be used without additional software (i.e. can be setup and upgraded OTA and not rely on KIES)

Cash-Strapped.T32

The umbrage felt my many people who watch IT as a whole isn't phony outrage. It's often a reaction to the deliberate corporate strategy pursued by Apple on it's lifestyle range of gear, and more so, the result this often has on the rest of the industry - A strategy that is well documented & admired by many other companies.

Like all the best marketing, it's psychological manipulation pure & simple.
If I keep the price high, then you'll want me all the more.
If you can't afford me now, you won't wait till the price comes down naturally, you'll take a loan, or expend more money than you can afford to get me now - because saving for later, delayed gratification, can have no benefit if the price never comes down.

It's taken directly from the fashion industry's toolkit, and those who've been around long enough to be able to see the difference between the physical artefact, and the marketing machine around it, tend to look upon the whole shebang with dismay.


I'm not even gonna do a GM & trawl google for blog links & stuff to fill the thread with, I've already read many of the myriad marketing & business websites which give you a break down, a full dissection of Apple's premium-pricing strategy & anyone who can be even half-arsed to check will find them also.
Bear in mind these articles aren't criticism, this is marketing people admiring the work of other marketing people, so hardly a biased reference.

Imo, everything negative said about Apple in recent years stems from this at heart.