Ovivo New Network. 200 minutes 200 Texts Free indefinitely.

prowla

Kernel_Sanders wrote: »

...gives you £5 referral for a 2nd sim yet nothing to the masses of people on Topcashback or Quidco who are currently unaware of Ovivo. This is what's stopping me from shelling out £20, as I fear a Ponzi-type collapse. I'd be happy to pay for a card in 20 monthly installments though!

I'm not sure I get the connection - why should they link with TCB & Quidco?

However, like you, I do wonder how sustainable it is.

But in the meanwhile it's been a good deal for me.

colinicky

People wonder how sustainable it is but O2 had something similar back in their Cellnet days. Pay up front for life, I still have 2 of them. 50 anytime minutes a month to Cellnet (now O2) & landline, everything else you pay for. I have never paid a penny on either of my numbers. Admittedly O2 have the rest of their business to support it but they are not going to if it is losing them money

NonGeographicalMan

prowla wrote: »

However, like you, I do wonder how sustainable it is.

It seems quite likely that in the end that it will become a large enough annoyance to one of the major operators that they will buy it out and continue to run it on a more sustainable basis. Or alternatively a large network will pick up the customer base and support for the current SIM cards from the liquidators if or when Ovivo goes bust,

I would envisage this as a service that still includes plenty of targeted adverts (but perhaps served more cleverly and less intrusively than the Ovivo Click To Continue page) with a £5 per month charge and say 500 minutes of calls and 500MB of data. At the moment Ovivo seems to offer more than enough data for a typical mobile user but not enough call minutes, especially as the out of bundle run on call rate is unattractive and you cannot top up with an add on minutes bundle within the existing accounting month.

NonGeographicalMan

colinicky wrote: »

So you admit your facts only have a "basis" in fact & events ?

No you have twisted it to suit yourself. My Comments are based on real facts and events.

The problem is that we are only hearing YOUR side of the story which as has been said you have repeated multiple times on various threads & even in the same thread. Make your point once in a thread & leave it at that.

Provide a link to any other thread in this forum or any other forum in which I have made comments about my issues with being forced to leave Ovivo. I think you will find that there are no such other threads. So your comments in this regard are clearly not based on fact and also potentially malicious in nature.

Personally I have phones with Tmobile, O2, 3, & Ovivo as I need to be on call between 3 businesses 24 hours a day

Wouldn't it be far easier to have a satellite phone with a divert from one of your other numbers if you are unreachable if it is really so important for the world to always be able to get in touch with you? Of course I suppose you will say that satellite phones only work indoors near a window facing the right way. Also voicemail normally covers the situation of being temporarily out of coverage unless you actually spend long periods of time sitting at fixed points in remote rural areas with no mobile coverage on some networks.

Also presumably with the now apparently completed consolidation of Orange and Tmobile masts and the ongoing but yet to be completed O2/Vodafone mast merger you will then need only to have three SIM cards at most? Also the number of places on which you can be reached on a dedicated 3 mast (when a 3 phone is not roaming for its calls service with EE instead) but not reached on either Tmobile/Orange or O2/Vodafone at the same time must surely be very few and far between indeed.

Silk

NonGeographicalMan wrote: »

How on earth exactly do you make that calculation?

Quite simple I was paying £10 per month per sim so 2 sims = £20 X 20 months = £400 saving

The cost was £5 per sim and due to referrals and a couple of uses abroad etc one has £6.30 left on it and the other has £10

My saving of £400 does not take into account the money my Mother has been able to save on her BT line for calling mobiles etc which based on BT's 12p per minute etc has a potential saving over the 20 months of another £480 if she was to use all the minutes

NonGeographicalMan wrote: »

If you need to be contactable wherever you are then there is a choice of various Pay As You Go networks

The problem with PAYG is that they have to be kept topped up and don't have a balance available to fall back on should the bundle run out etc etc With Ovivo it resets each month with free cals texts and data. Regardless of you missing the trick about Pay these are Free

Which also leads on to another advantage with Ovivo .....Out of bundle call charges Ovivo is 8p per min and the other majors 25p/30p per min ...Texts with Ovivo 5p the others are 12p ....so even when the free bundle runs out the calls and texts are far cheaper than the major networks.

It also has the advantage of Ovivo to Ovivo cals and texts so should my Mother need to call or text and the bundle has run out it only costs 2p per min or 2p per text which is ideal for her calling me or her SIL.

So to sum up the savings to me are at the least £400 and probably more like £500 with a total potential of over £880 in the 20 months since being with them.

NonGeographicalMan

Silk wrote: »

So to sum up the savings to me are at the least £400 and probably more like £500 with a total potential of over £880 in the 20 months since being with them.

Strange then that my being forced to leave Ovivo need only have cost me £120 per annum (£10 per month) on a Tesco Mobile SIM only deal with 1 month contract and would have given me 500 minutes of calls and 1Gb of data. In the event I went for the £12.50 deal with 750 minutes of calls and 2Gb of data as I knew O2 SIMs could be tethered without issue.

But I am recouping at least £50 a year of that by no longer making any weekday daytime calls on my landline (5p per call even with www.18185.co.uk and I was usually always up to at least £4 per month of those) and am now also able to not worry about my call length when telephoning loquacious friends from my mobile phone.

My data service also now works reliably and without the insertion of forced advertising that frequently stopped the web browsing service working altogether.

I am still considering whether Virgin's £15 per month 1 month contract SIM only deal with Unlimited calls (in practice 3,000 minutes under the Fair Use policy) and Unlimited data (in practice this is actually Unlimited but only the first 3.5Gb are at 3G speeds after which you are slowed down to no more than 2.5G speeds) may be a better option. I still have to gather more evidence on Virgin Mobile's real world behaviour in respect of tethering. If I can get rid of my ever more expensive fixed landline and associated fixed line broadband at one of the addresses I am at a few days a month by using the Virgin package this would save me around £370 per annum. However to stay under the 3.5Gb cap I would have to be slightly more cautious than at present about video streaming when at that address. Another reason for changing to EE is that I am finding the O2 network still has many unpleasant holes in its coverage when indoors that they simply pretend do not exist on their coverage maps.

Silk

NonGeographicalMan wrote: »

Strange then that my being forced to leave Ovivo need only have cost me £120 per annum (£10 per month)
I am still considering whether Virgin's £15 per month

£10 a month £15 a month whatever the cost you pay is still going to be more than I've been paying for 20 months :rotfl:

Theres nothing strange about it

NonGeographicalMan

This is an interesting bulletin just issued by Ofcom which provides another indicator as to why anyone concerned with having a network with the widest possible 3G/4G coverage would be better off elsewhere than with a Vodafone MVNO (eg Ovivo):-

[FONT=&quot]On 7 November 2013, Ofcom issued a statement that Vodafone had not met the 3G licence requirement that it provide coverage of 90% of the UK population. Vodafone advised Ofcom that it had implemented a plan which would achieve the target by the end of 2013. On 20 December 2013, Vodafone notified Ofcom that it had successfully upgraded 129 sites. The coverage assessment conducted by Ofcom in January 2014 has confirmed that Vodafone is now compliant with the licence requirement. Ofcom has also determined that on this occasion, it will not take any further enforcement action.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]A news release can be found here.[/FONT]

[FONT=&quot]So when a gun was put to its head by the regulator Vodafone managed to upgrade 129 sites in only 7 weeks to 3G. This tells us the reason for Vodafone's slow 3G rollout is not the time it takes to do the work but simply its own unwillingness to make the necessary investment unless forced to do so a the point of a regulatory gun.[/FONT]


[FONT=&quot]The Vodafone network continues to have a far worse level of 3G coverage in the UK than either O2 or the integrated Orange/Tmobile network. I am sure they will not extend it any further until Vodafone issues a new regulatory target and deadline for them to achieve 3G coverage on 95% of their transmitters. This will still leave huge parts of Wales and Scotland with only a 2G speed data service.

For all these reasons it is therefore a great pity that Dariush Zand's previous career was not with TMobile or Orange (rather than with Vodafone) so that he could then have launched his advertising based mobile MVNO using the currently most extensive and fastest speed UK mobile network (EE)
[/FONT]

Silk

NonGeographicalMan wrote: »

This is an interesting bulletin just issued by Ofcom which provides another indicator as to why anyone concerned with having a network with the widest possible 3G/4G coverage would be better off elsewhere than with a Vodafone MVNO:-

I wouldn't have thought the people who use Ovivo are concerned about that.

The whole concept is to provide free calls data and texts for free based on watching a few ads from time to time.

Those people who are looking for fast speeds wide coverage and 4g are the type of customer who goes out and buys a package including the latest iPhone every 18 months.

There are area's I visit esp. in the Lakes where the only signal I can get is Vodafone hence the requirement for me to use them no doubt there will be others in the same situation.

By far the best provider over the years for all round is O2 which I use for Business and private and have done for many many years ......However thats not what this is about it's about a provider that gives free calls, texts and data

By all means feel free to come up with an alternative provider that will give you 200 mins 300 texts and 500mb every month and I will have a look at them.

Meanwhile scraping the barrel, trawling the internet for articles you can add negative comments to isn't going to put me or others off using them.

In fact to be honest it's starting to look rather sad now

Roger1

Silk wrote: »

Should have gone into your account as a £1 credit I would have thought ...have a look at your balance and if it's not there ask them where it is.

Interrogating my memory , ISTR that I could choose between an M&S voucher and an Amazon voucher. I chose Amazon.

I've since had a message saying they'll action it shortly.