Son being realeased from prison

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

No point complaining about how addicts break the law to get their fix. It's part of the job description.


She should be thinking that, seeing as he couldn't even get it together enough to clean up inside, HE DOESN'T WANT TO STOP.

So he's only going to be coming back to her for money. Hence his giving her phone number out 'Call my mum. She always pays my bills, Now give me my %&£*£$ gear'



If he gets done over for not paying a debt, then that's just the chance he takes. It's that, Hep, HIV or OD. None of it is her responsibility - unless she is daft enough to fall for the lies, the manipulation, the screaming, the crying, the threats that convince her that she has to do it to save/keep him - when she lost him years ago.

Kay_Peel

cavework wrote: »

My friend is already receiving phone calls on her mobile from 'people who have an interest about her sons release due to the fact they supplied him while he was in prison and have not been paid.'

1. Your friend should say: 'Give me your name and address and how much he owes you, and I'll be around faster than a very fast thing on speed'

And then call the police and make a complaint of harassment.

2. Ask them - 'How did you get my mobile number?' It's unusual for suppliers to know a client's mum's mobile number. It's really unusual for more than one supplier to have it.

Not only would I change my number but I wouldn't let my son know it in case he passed it on.

Gingernutty

How are drugs and mobile 'phones getting in? Simple - smuggling. Hard case profiteers, misguided family and friends, compromised staff.

How are the direct debits set up? With a variety of threats, coercion, violence and misguided relatives who think they are doing the right thing. If they are paying the inmates' debts then the inmates won't come out owing loads of drugs money and the dealers won't be waiting to break their legs.

Drug addiction is rarely isolated. No one starts out knowing how to make a crack pipe, how to 'chase the dragon' or how to use illegally obtained prescription drugs to stop the shakes if you can't get a hit. Behaviour like this is learned from immediate family and/or 'friends'. Every addict has sought out a massive support network keeping him/her addicted.

It's these 'friends' and/or family members who find the inmates' withdrawal symptoms distressing and who think they are doing the right thing trying to smuggle drugs, ensuring a supplier or paying the debts. It's these 'enablers' that cause a lot of despair amongst drug workers.

The OP's friend's son is moving back home, back to his warped support network and back to the circumstances that has enabled him to become and remain an addict.

The OP's friend may well be Mother Teresa material, but clearly something is going wrong.

Whether by giving him a roof over his head and letting any 'keep' he should be giving her slide, by believing the best of him when he's lying through his teeth that he'll have the money tomorrow or the benefit agency are a bunch of w!nkers who have screwed up his benefit claim or she's stressing him out with her nagging - in the past she has kept an unrepentant addict under her roof thereby enabling him to carry on.

Drug addicts in denial, like alcoholics, adulterers and gamblers are sneaky, devious, utterly deluded, see nothing wrong with their 'lifestyle choices' - in total denial, they will resent any intrusion into their business and often seek out new ways to carry on undetected. If Mum finds the secret stash the son may well act contrite to his Mum but will find a new place to hide it and so on.

Your friend needs the help of someone like Narcotics Anonymous who run support groups for the relatives of addicts.

Savvy_Sue

Not stopping to read the whole thread, but there may be a local drug treatment service which will also point the OP's friend to support services for families.

My internet's playing up tonight, but a google for drug treatment services west midlands brings up a few links, any of which might be worth exploring.

milliemonster

My husband is a prison officer aswell who works in a Cat A prison inner city (high security) and I have to agree totally with what loucam says in post 42, yes drugs are rife in prisons, the only thing you need to blame for this is the human rights act, prison is there for one purpose and one purpose only, to remove someone's liberty, it is not there to act as a deterrent, punishment or whatever, just to remove someone's freedom. mobile phones, drugs etc are brought in by visitors, so it is families and friends you need to blame for supplying prisoners with contraband, indeed quite often visitors will secrete contraband in the underwear of their babies and young children to avoid it being detected, staff can only screen visitors so far, but as someone else has rightly pointed out, these are then ingested, inserted into orifices etc, prisoners will go to extreme lengths to hide these things.

Officers do cell checks on a constant basis and often find contraband which is then removed, but it goes on and on and on, quite soon prisoners will all be getting mobiles for their personal use did you know that?, that's the human rights act again at work which has stated that it is illegal and unfair for prisoners to not be able to contact their families on the outside when they want to, this is going to increase the problem dramatically, the officers on the shop floor can see this but 'men in suits' believe in equality, dignity and privacy for every prisoner and live in la la land.

So, my friend, do not blame the prison service on the ground for your friend's son's issues, it is his friends and family visiting him that will be supplying him, he can always say no.

DVardysShadow

milliemonster wrote: »

My husband is a prison officer aswell who works in a Cat A prison inner city (high security) and I have to agree totally with what loucam says in post 42, yes drugs are rife in prisons, the only thing you need to blame for this is the human rights act, prison is there for ....

There may or may not be faults with the Human Rights Act 1998. But to blame it for drugs in prisons is carrying your agenda to the point of idiocy. Now you would have to tell me there was no drugs problem before 1998, for your point to be credible, but you would look quite daft if you said that.

DKLS

It would be easy to resolve the issue of smuggled mobiles in prisons by installing signal blockers within the prison, resolving the issue of drugs would be nigh on impossible.

Dontknowanymore

sassyblue wrote: »

Appalling. Prisoners should be made to go cold turkey in prison, that might make them think twice about re-offending, not to mention clean by the time they get out.

I so wish l was Prime Minster!

I'm so glad you are not prime minister! Ignorance will get you nowhere...

dirtysexymonkey

DKLS wrote: »

It would be easy to resolve the issue of smuggled mobiles in prisons by installing signal blockers within the prison, resolving the issue of drugs would be nigh on impossible.

one tiny problem with that - the blockers would also block the radio signals used for the communication between staff.

Dontknowanymore

Ronaldo_Mconaldo wrote: »

This board should be renamed The Chav Board or something. We've got issues such as wife beating, smack head kids, the pros and cons of having an affair. It's a rich tapestry of the behaviour of the underclass.

Anyway, to the point. Don't blame the prison system. Blame this junkie for screwing up his life and blame his mum for not stopping it happening. It's always somebody elses fault though, eh?

Yes because Domestic abuse, adultry and addiction only occurs in the 'lower classes' *rollseyes*