Son being realeased from prison

jamespir

whitewing wrote: »

jamespir, are you saying the Prison Service claims a direct debit payment from families on behalf of the prisoner to provide the prisoner with 'pocket money' during his stay?

And cavewoman is saying that this money is actually used to buy drugs in prison?

the money yes is to buy stuff they dont actually see it ie not given to them personaly but they are told they have say 10.20 to spend in the shop

elliebobs

jamespir wrote: »

the money yes is to buy stuff they dont actually see it ie not given to them personaly but they are told they have say 10.20 to spend in the shop

This is correct, or the prisoner can earn money from a 'job' he has inside. No physical money actually changes hands though. A list goes round every week with things such a tobacco, shower stuff, sweets etc and then the prisoner puts an order in and the money is debited.

Actual hard cash is not a valuable commodity in prison as you can't spend it and the risk of it getting found during a cell search is too great.

Mobile phones and tobacco is the currency of choice.

Sadly, the best place to score drugs is inside and if you weren't an addict in the first place then the odds are that you will be when you leave.

For reasons that I really don't want to go into, signal blockers are not appropriate; life would be easier if they were.

I also wish to belatedly apologise to the OP if she thought I was being harsh; I do my best not to judge those inside and believe me I've seen people from all walks of life; all it takes is one bad decision and your life can be seriously messed up and once you're in that situation it is so hard to get out of.

There but for the grace of god and all that.

esuhl

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

{S}eeing as he couldn't even get it together enough to clean up inside, HE DOESN'T WANT TO STOP.

But prison would be the hardest place to give up drugs! Isolated from society with nothing to do for years (or just months) on end, I don't think it would be long before I was looking for any way to relieve the boredom! I've never tried heroin (unless the NHS have given me any!) and the very idea scares me witless, but if I was in prison for any length of time... I just don't know what I would do. Am I'm not already a user/addict!

This is one reason why prison is *such* a bad idea for drug addicts. People who have "only" committed crimes as a result of their addiction should be detained in treatment centres instead of prison. Their days should be filled with activities, partly just "to keep them busy", partly to improve their self-esteem, give them a sense of pride and help them feel like a valued/respected member of society (charity work, etc.), and partly to help them deal with the underlying psychological issues that cause, exaccerbate or maintain their addiction (so psychotherapy/counselling, group therapy / Narcotics Anonymous meetings, etc).

Just my take on it, anyway...

peachyprice

esuhl wrote: »

This is one reason why prison is *such* a bad idea for drug addicts. People who have "only" committed crimes as a result of their addiction should be detained in treatment centres instead of prison. Their days should be filled with activities, partly just "to keep them busy", partly to improve their self-esteem, give them a sense of pride and help them feel like a valued/respected member of society (charity work, etc.), and partly to help them deal with the underlying psychological issues that cause, exaccerbate or maintain their addiction (so psychotherapy/counselling, group therapy / Narcotics Anonymous meetings, etc).

Just my take on it, anyway...

Yes, it's called rehab. It still only works on people who actually want to be clean through, and those people usually seek treatment BEFORE turning to crime.

scheming_gypsy

whitewing wrote: »

jamespir, are you saying the Prison Service claims a direct debit payment from families on behalf of the prisoner to provide the prisoner with 'pocket money' during his stay?

And cavewoman is saying that this money is actually used to buy drugs in prison?

i think Cavewoman was saying that the direct debit is set up on the outside to pay the dealers, not to pay to the prisoner to pay for drugs on the inside.

jamespir

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

i think Cavewoman was saying that the direct debit is set up on the outside to pay the dealers, not to pay to the prisoner to pay for drugs on the inside.

thats a load of tosh theres no way a drug dealers sets up a direct debit with anyone there may as well wear a big neon sign round their heads with im a drug dealer

adouglasmhor

cavework wrote: »

Hi person from the prison service..
I agree you have one really tough job and yes addicts can be the most selfish people but the question remains
why can people on the inside get the family of addicts who are in prison, to set up direct debits on the outside ,to pay for the supply of drugs to people in prison?

Why when they are supplied with these drugs it is not noticed?.
mobile phones that the prison service don't allow, no matter where they are secreted ... ?
Sorry .. maybe it's time to reassess your search methods.

Prison officers need a good reason before they have to put there rubber gloved hand into someones ring. The law as it stands would not allow a full body cavity search of every single prisoner admitted. And that is just one of the many ways contraband is smuggled into the system.

adouglasmhor

**Patty** wrote: »

You obviously know little about drug users & think that your stereotypical junkie is some kind of gutter-living lowlife.

In actual fact (you can google ...its all there).....there are MORE hard drug users working (yes thats right WORKING) in high demanding city jobs than any other section of the population.

But coke while a destructive hard drug is not the same as smack. A coke head is not the same as a junkie.

adouglasmhor

BTW
Heroine heroine

Heroin


There is no e on the end that's a different word.

peachyprice

adouglasmhor wrote: »

But coke while a destructive hard drug is not the same as smack. A coke head is not the same as a junkie.

And a user is not the same as an addict.