Son being realeased from prison

scheming_gypsy

Kay_Peel wrote: »

1. Your friend should say: 'Give me your name and address and how much he owes you, and I'll be around faster than a very fast thing on speed'

And then call the police and make a complaint of harassment.

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and then move house as it wasn't the cleverest thing to do.

Little true story for you; in May, somebody i know thought it'd be a good idea to rob a drug dealer to pay his car insurance and take his bird on holiday. The next thing he knows, he's in the back of a van with bats bouncing off his head.
He was left for dead but managed to stagger into the street where he was found and taken to hospital.

Moral of the story? if you're going to !!!! off a drug dealer, you make sure they'll never find out it was you.

esuhl

sassyblue wrote: »

Appalling. Prisoners should be made to go cold turkey in prison, that might make them think twice about re-offending, not to mention clean by the time they get out.

From what I've heard (thankfully no experience in this area!) opiates are physically addictive so forcing inmates to go "cold turkey" could result in death. Maybe you don't care about addicts, but they have not been sentenced to death and it would be highly immoral for the "system" to risk their lives.

dirtysexymonkey wrote: »

such a great mum that her son ended up a junkie in prison! amazing parenting!

Since the son is an adult, I'm not sure that all the responsibility for everything the son has ever done is his mum's. If that's the way things work, then surely his mum isn't to blame - it's her mum for raising her daughter to bring up her son "badly"... or her mum's mum... or her mum's mum's mum...?

Ronaldo_Mconaldo wrote: »

Anyway, to the point. Don't blame the prison system. Blame this junkie for screwing up his life and blame his mum for not stopping it happening. It's always somebody elses fault though, eh?

What was the mum supposed to do? Heroin is illegal in this country. Telling the authorities is likely to result in criminal sanctions which (as we have seen) don't address the problem of addiction, but may actually perpetuate it.

If drugs possession was decriminalised and treated as a health issue, the son might have been detained in a secure rehab centre rather than a prison, which would likely result in a better outcome.

Given the enormous cost to society of petty crimes committed by addicts to feed their addiction, the system hasn't just let the addict down, it's let all of us down.

At the end of day, it doesn't really matter who's "to blame". What we need is a system that gives us the best possible chance of treating addiction, and of keeping people from becoming addicts in the first place.

sarahk100574

cavework wrote: »

Unbelievably direct debits are set up for prisoners by families on the outside,to pay for this addiction and these people on the outside are making a fortune .


Oh dear.... when people using the MSE forums are as ill informed as this it's is probably time to be worried for us all.....

A Direct Debit is a payment taken from a bank account with the permission of the account holder. All companies using the Direct Debit system are registered with the relevent financial authorities and have to follow both the direct debit guarantee and the usual banking codes of conduct - now I'm no expert but I think its pretty safe to say that there are NO DRUG DEALERS BEING PAID VIA DIRECT DEBIT in prison, or an!!!!ere else! Seriously, no wonder this country is in a mess......:rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

RichGold

dirtysexymonkey wrote: »

one tiny problem with that - the blockers would also block the radio signals used for the communication between staff.

Not always so, and would depend largely on what prison officers actually used to communicate (tetra?). The radio spectrum is huge and there is plenty of scope for block a certain range of frequencies used by for instance mobile phones, but leaving others such as PMR completely untouched.

claire16c

Maybe prisons should install those plastic screens and let prisoners talk to their visitors through a phone like they do in the US. So they cant touch each other.

jamespir

i love the fact that you suggest people should not be judgemental but you end your post doing exactly that

jamespir

cavework wrote: »

I am posting this for a dear friend,
Anyone who wants to make judgements regarding the reason this person was in prison is not welcome on this thread..
My friends son is being released from prison in the next 4 weeks. He is going to live with his Mum , but has a curfew 7pm to 7am for 15 months.
He is a Heroine addict and has spent most of his life in prisons.
He has just spent 18 months in prison and is still reliant on Methodone .. that makes me really angry , but that is open for discussion for another day.
He is due out in 4 weeks . my friend is already receiving phone calls on her mobile from 'people who have an interest about her sons release due to the fact they supplied him while he was in prison and have not been paid.
Unbelievably direct debits are set up for prisoners by families on the outside,to pay for this addiction and these people on the outside are making a fortune .
Another thing .. mobile phones are avaliable in prison if you can pay to use them?
WHAT THE HELL IS GOING ON IN OUR PRISON SERVICE ???

the dd is to get him stuff like chocolate and shower gell or fags if you smoke its not to buy drugs with or pay off drug dealers if your gonna claim something a least make sure its the truth

make_me_wise

dontone wrote: »

I have a cousin who has spent most of his adult life in prison (he's only 33, first went in at 18). Heroin is the cause of it all, he relies on stealing to pay for his next fix.
Intravenous drug use has led to him contracting Hepatitis B, yet he still continues to abuse his body. His upbringing has a lot to do with it, but his brothers and sister have turned out ok, so he can't keep using that as an excuse for his behaviour.
Another cousin of mine took him in to help him, but he ended up back inside due to his sticky fingers. He has admitted to quite a few members of our family that he loves going inside. He gets a nice bed, 3 meals a day, and is looked after quite well by the medical staff. He gets clean inside but lasts about 3 months on the outside before he's at it again.
Sorry to say that he is beyond help.

God that is so sad. What an awful way to live.

whitewing

jamespir wrote: »

the dd is to get him stuff like chocolate and shower gell or fags if you smoke its not to buy drugs with or pay off drug dealers if your gonna claim something a least make sure its the truth

jamespir, are you saying the Prison Service claims a direct debit payment from families on behalf of the prisoner to provide the prisoner with 'pocket money' during his stay?

And cavewoman is saying that this money is actually used to buy drugs in prison?

Dontknowanymore

whitewing wrote: »

jamespir, are you saying the Prison Service claims a direct debit payment from families on behalf of the prisoner to provide the prisoner with 'pocket money' during his stay?

And cavewoman is saying that this money is actually used to buy drugs in prison?

But the prisoners don't physically get the money.