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Sam____2

donnajunkie wrote: »

yes those are the rules and if they were fair rules i would say put up with them. if they were rules that cant be got around somehow i would say put up with them. however the rule is not fair and it can be got around.

in your opinion...

I think it's very fair

Jomo

donnajunkie wrote: »

sorry i usually prefer to address each point seperately otherwise people can get confused about what point i am responding to. does it really matter?

Aha, not you then?:rotfl:

Oldernotwiser

donnajunkie wrote: »

how would you attend it if you live in dover and are on holiday in northern scotland? surely any reasonable employer wouldnt mind delaying the interview if you explained you were going away on a trip that you had booked and paid for ages ago. if they wont do that then its a sign that maybe they are not an employer people should be wanting to work for.

No wonder you've been unemployed for so long!

donnajunkie

Anubis wrote: »

Instead of being bored ***less, they should take up some voluntary work, as long as any voluntary work done is inline within the JSA rules.

Walking, jogging, reading, etc costs nothing if a person is fit and able - there is no reason for people to be bored.

fair enough i suppose. i like to do my walking in the lakes. even doing those things i think you will find most people do have many periods of boredom when not working. so whats so bad about having a few days experiencing new places. i just dont get why people have an issue with something that has very little chance of having a negative impact on their overall jobsearch.

donnajunkie

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

It's only the people who don't really want to work (like you) who sit round doing nothing all the time. Those that are keen to work do voluntary work, take courses and spend their time actively job seeking. That's why people who do this are rarely long term unemployed.

really? i have known many longterm unemployed people who do those things. how do you know if i sit around doing nothing all the time or not.

Oldernotwiser

donnajunkie wrote: »

really? i have known many longterm unemployed people who do those things. how do you know if i sit around doing nothing all the time or not.

Because you post about your life in some detail.

donnajunkie

nottslass wrote: »

I travel quite extensivly and have had no problem getting back to the uk at short notice - even on a flight last week which is peak season there were still seveal spare seats and incidently I could travel back from spain tomorrow for £97 ( two available flights but it would cost £122 to get back from inverness and there is only one train)

it doesnt matter how stupid we make the rules look they will still stick to the those are the rules so put up with them way of thinking and slag anyone off who tries to get around those rules.

donnajunkie

Jomo wrote: »

In anycase, this isn't about the jobsearch but more about being able to attend an interview at short notice....much easier to do so when in the UK.

a number of people have given examples to show this is not correct unless you have a car or are just going a few miles away.

donnajunkie

Reverbe wrote: »

in my experience they dont do that when you are NOT away. its just a case of their silly rules. as others have posted ppl do find themselves unemployed who werent when booking..

yes, i think a limit on the amount of time away in a year is the only rule needed.

Anubis_2

I am not " slagging " anyone off. It is just that whether you or anyone else agrees to the rules or not, the rules stand that you have to sign off JSA if going abroad, then rapid reclaim on return.

Personally, I don't know why anyone expects to keep their JSA if you go abroad on holiday, afterall, no one goes on holiday without any spending money, so the 50 or 60 for the week of JSA is not needed really, unless people expect to use it as spending money?