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Daughter is pregnant - at 15!

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  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    I know exactly what I'm talking about and stand by what I said. The centres which give counselling are independent and impartial.

    I can see you didn't read my link.

    Does this sound unbiased to you?

    http://www.careconfidential.com/Stories/364.aspx

    or this?

    http://www.careconfidential.com/Stories/991.aspx

    Their site is full of stories like these, all written from the same standpoint.
  • Welshdebtor
    Welshdebtor Posts: 628 Forumite
    edited 19 June 2011 at 11:34PM
    There is a diference though between the centres which are independent and any campaigning or education work which these organisations may do.

    And people addressing concerns/sharing media reports on the organisation involved with that link I posted will help the OP/her daughter think about researching if any people they may approach are really 100% impartial.
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  • marywooyeah
    marywooyeah Posts: 2,670 Forumite
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    OP It is my experience on here that a lot of posters have had terminations - in fact I was quite surprised at how many. There have been various other posts where experiences were shared. Some were bad experiences, I personally suffered Post Abortion Stress Syndrome for about 4 years (I cannot tell you how bad it was, like seriously I couldnt really even put it into words), but there are others who had done it and had no regrets, some even felt great (for want of a better word) about it. Equally, there are posters on here who have clear views either way about it.

    Whilst it is good to bear these in mind, I dont think a decision should be based wholly or partly on the experience of others. I was influenced by some friends at the time who had each had 2 abortions and told me "oh its fine you're in and out quickly it doesnt hurt too much" which made me think I was being "stupid", equally as I kept calling him "baby" and others were saying "oh its not even a baby dont feel bad" etc. You and your daughter need to do what YOU feel. If you feel "baby" then say "baby", same if you think "foetus/embryo". The fact that your daughter was thinking of how to "hide" the pregnancy to me suggests she wants to keep, but ultimately I think you both need to decide without taking too much outside views xxx
  • marywooyeah
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    I can see you didn't read my link.

    Does this sound unbiased to you?

    http://www.careconfidential.com/Stories/364.aspx

    or this?

    http://www.careconfidential.com/Stories/991.aspx

    Their site is full of stories like these, all written from the same standpoint.

    I had my post abortion counselling - although I approached them asking for help, it wasnt given to me by the hospital - last year (4 and a bit years after losing my baby to abortion) and they were very impartial, I was never judged once and it was an incredibly helpful course. Although obviously this was afterwards, from my experience with them I would imagine they would be impartial and supportive either way to a pregnant girl/woman.
  • Oldernotwiser
    Oldernotwiser Posts: 37,425 Forumite
    I had my post abortion counselling - although I approached them asking for help, it wasnt given to me by the hospital - last year (4 and a bit years after losing my baby to abortion) and they were very impartial, I was never judged once and it was an incredibly helpful course. Although obviously this was afterwards, from my experience with them I would imagine they would be impartial and supportive either way to a pregnant girl/woman.

    I'm glad you found them helpful but it does sound to me that you were coming from the same place as they are, which would make it difficult to judge their impartiality.
  • marywooyeah
    marywooyeah Posts: 2,670 Forumite
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    I'm glad you found them helpful but it does sound to me that you were coming from the same place as they are, which would make it difficult to judge their impartiality.

    That is a good point ONW, one that I had not considered. I remember a poster on another thread saying that Marie Stopes were weighing a lot more heavily on going ahead with a termination, and she felt that that was because they would make more money that way, and I was surprised to read an earlier post on here that someone's GP had tried to encourage one too.
    I guess it's hard to know really, I guess no organisation can be completely impartial.
  • jc808
    jc808 Posts: 1,756 Forumite
    vax2002 wrote: »
    I think you may find they will be contacting you.

    Jesus, another cuckoo post beamed in from some moronic, parallel universe where everything is black and white, inaproppriate and !!!!lng stupid. Have you ever thought about a reality check? Or maybe even clarifying, legally, what terms like 'rape' actually mean?

    @ op best of luck - hope everything turns out ok, intriguing thread
  • Torry_Quine
    Torry_Quine Posts: 18,876 Forumite
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    edited 20 June 2011 at 10:46AM
    I can see you didn't read my link.

    Does this sound unbiased to you?

    http://www.careconfidential.com/Stories/364.aspx

    or this?

    http://www.careconfidential.com/Stories/991.aspx

    Their site is full of stories like these, all written from the same standpoint.

    i have read those links and others, what they show are somen who didn't get unbiased counselling before-hand and now regret the decisions made.
    It is not the OP's position to push her daughter into terminating or keeping the baby.

    That aside, as you point out, if she goes through with the pregnancy it will change her life. That said, it will not be the end of her life or her plans.

    The daughter can only be given advice on all sides of the arguement to make her own choice.

    Very sound advice.
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  • poppyfield19
    poppyfield19 Posts: 176 Forumite
    Hi everyone,

    I hope it doesn't seem like I ignore anyones replies, I read all of your post and all of the (genuine!) replies are really appreciated. Thanks to everyone who has opened up and shared their experience, good or bad, it is good to hear from you all.

    Yes she has 2 younger sisters. They are 6 & 8 and at the moment, seem to just be their normal, happy selves. At the moment it's just between my daughter and I.

    thorsoak that story you linked to is really, really sad.... :( Not sure what to say. I am so glad she told me, especially when you see things like that.

    Sorry if I haven't replied to anything. Going to the doctors tomorrow with her. She said tonight before she went to bed that she'd think about what was the right thing to do but right now she didn't know. She said part of her thinks it is wrong to get rid of what will be a baby, and the other part thinks it would be wrong to keep the baby.
  • newleaf
    newleaf Posts: 3,132 Forumite
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    Wishing you both the best of luck for today. Keep steering a steady course.
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