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The census is after me?
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they keep bothering me about it, but the paper they put through my letterbox says "you can be fined £1000 for refusing to fill in the census form"
i have not refused to do anything , it doesn't say i can be fined £1000 for not opening my front door to strangers anywhere on the form, time will tell , i wish them good luck with trying to 1000p from me let alone £1000
So when the letter comes addressed to you personally, will you then pay the one thousand pound fine? If you don't complete the census, ipso facto, you have refused to do so.The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
The job description does say they will be able to interview under caution. Yes or no?Where in the job description does this say the interview will take place on the doorstep? No IUC ever takes place on someone's doorstep.
My guess is they will be able to caution someone at the door and note down the conversation as evidence for a potential prosecution.
The occupant may prefer to invite them in if this happens, but has no legal obligation to do so.
They have the right to remain silent also (as per PACE)0 -
So why did you refer to the Terrorism Act? Plus, I'm guessing the Offences Against the Person Act doesn't exist in your world ...
As one of the 'trained' people that you referred to, this concept of status law is not one that I am familiar with.
Methinks you are making it up as you go along ... but you do make for jolly funny reading!
Guessing he's never heard of the Theft Act either....
He clearly knows nothing about law and his link to the David Icke website says it all really...
!!!!!! is 'status law'?Maybe he's just super dumb and actually means Statute Law which is actually law
Great laugh though:rotfl:If women are birds and freedom is flight are trapped women Dodos?0 -
The job description does say they will be able to interview under caution. Yes or no?
My guess is they will be able to caution someone at the door and note down the conversation as evidence for a potential prosecution.
The occupant may prefer to invite them in if this happens, but has no legal obligation to do so.
They have the right to remain silent also (as per PACE)
I have no idea !!!!!! you are on about and I suspect that you don't either. I have never denied they wil be able to conduct an IUC. I just disagreed with Stan5001 that it will be done on the doorstep. You then, rather oddly, posted that it will be. You even linked to the job description of the non-compliance officers, where it makes no reference to this taking place at the doorstep. But tellingly, you now say that you are only guessing this will happen at all.
Any news on this link to the deadline not being 6th April?The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Says the person who sat online until 4am the other morning deleting their posts!
Sir Isaac Newton, Once said for every action there is also a reaction…My reaction to that sentiment of a drivel-clandestine post of grammar you wrote was to simply ignore you. Since pineapple managed to work out what my whole posts were meaning about in the first place...:D
Praise digitial terrorists....the internet is full of them."MSE Money saving challenges..8/12/13 3,500 saved so far :j" p.s if i been helpfully please leave me a thank you but seek official advice at all times from a pro0 -
Guessing he's never heard of the Theft Act either....
He clearly knows nothing about law and his link to the David Icke website says it all really...
!!!!!! is 'status law'?Maybe he's just super dumb and actually means Statute Law which is actually law
Great laugh though:rotfl:
Noun1.legal status - a status defined by law law, jurisprudence - the collection of rules imposed by authority; "civilization presupposes respect for the law"; "the great problem for jurisprudence to allow freedom while enforcing order"
is it not freedom of rights as human beings to decide to fill in a census under our own value and not a defined ACT OF LAW to force us to do so?
Laugh away?
One last thing
Statutory law is referred to as "Title of Act Year",[7] where the title is the "short title", and ends in "Act", as in "Interpretation Act 1978". Compare with American convention, which includes "of", as in "Civil Rights Act of 1964".
This became the usual way to refer to acts in the second half of the 19th century, starting in the 1840s; previously acts were referred to by their long title together with the regnal year of the parliamentary session in which they received Royal Assent
Means it has to be past by the Queen to become common law after debate in commons?
Not Common law to enforce such as somone who has been found guilty of murder or hidious crimes as such?
innocent till proven guilty i throught the whole judicial system of law was based on or at least it was when the Magna Carta has in it, which is many founditions of our laws are upholded and contracted from in a historicial belief. Cannot see Many people being arrested or pehaps Cautioned like if someone has committed like a benefit Fraud inspector would do to a dole scrounger whos been working on-the-side. However you enter into a contract by giving your details by consent.
on that note of magna carta-Check this
Under English Common Law (namely Article 61 of the Magna Carta -
1215) if a subject of the realm feels he/she is being governed
unjustly, then they have the right to enter into lawful rebellion.
Lawful rebellion allows quite simply for the following recourse:
Full refusal to pay any forms of tax, fines and any other forms of
monies to support and/or benefit said unlawful governance of this
country.
Full refusal to abide by any Law, Legislation or Statutory
Instrument invalidly put in place by said unlawful governance that
is in breach of the Constitutional safeguard.
To hinder in any way possible all actions of the treasonous
government of this land, who have breached the Constitutional
safeguard; defined with no form of violence in anyway, just lawful
hindrance under freedom asserted by Constitutional Law and Article
61.
Statue law overiding common law?
My understanding is statute law is the consent of the governed and
is contract law.
So can you explain to me how statute law is legally enforceable if
express consent is removed so there is no misunderstanding of
implied consent.like the census?
Example say a Statute law was introduced that said you had to wear
a hat on a Sunday.
If I wrote legal notices and a notice of estoppel-
Could one still be fined/sentenced or imprisoned?
Or would removed consent revert to common law.
If statute law is legally enforceable with removal of express
consent-could you provide a location of the information that
expresses this
I rest my case-Thank you"MSE Money saving challenges..8/12/13 3,500 saved so far :j" p.s if i been helpfully please leave me a thank you but seek official advice at all times from a pro0 -
Doesn't the fact that they fined 37 people last time suggest to you that they can and will do so if they want to? If it weren't law, someone would have challenged it in the courts.
Much the same as a PPC parking fine, some will just blindly pay it.
Do you really think our government would pass up tne chance of fining £1k if they were confident? Intepretations act alone (yes m'lord, I posted it....) would stop all convictions in their tracks.0 -
...what spellcheckers have you been using so the rest of us can avoid?
Microsoft 2010 Professional word Application Software.
By the way you do not start a sentence with ..... Usally comes after one.
Guess trolls dont use Microsoft word...Insults their Intellengence?
"MSE Money saving challenges..8/12/13 3,500 saved so far :j" p.s if i been helpfully please leave me a thank you but seek official advice at all times from a pro0 -
Noun1.legal status - a status defined by law law, jurisprudence - the collection of rules imposed by authority; "civilization presupposes respect for the law"; "the great problem for jurisprudence to allow freedom while enforcing order"
is it not freedom of rights as human beings to decide to fill in a census under our own value and not a defined ACT OF LAW to force us to do so?
Laugh away?
One last thing
Statutory law is referred to as "Title of Act Year",[7] where the title is the "short title", and ends in "Act", as in "Interpretation Act 1978". Compare with American convention, which includes "of", as in "Civil Rights Act of 1964".
This became the usual way to refer to acts in the second half of the 19th century, starting in the 1840s; previously acts were referred to by their long title together with the regnal year of the parliamentary session in which they received Royal Assent
Means it has to be past by the Queen to become common law after debate in commons?
Not Common law to enforce such as somone who has been found guilty of murder or hidious crimes as such?
innocent till proven guilty i throught the whole judicial system of law was based on or at least it was when the Magna Carta has in it, which is many founditions of our laws are upholded and contracted from in a historicial belief. Cannot see Many people being arrested or pehaps Cautioned like if someone has committed like a benefit Fraud inspector would do to a dole scrounger whos been working on-the-side. However you enter into a contract by giving your details by consent.
on that note of magna carta-Check this
Under English Common Law (namely Article 61 of the Magna Carta -
1215) if a subject of the realm feels he/she is being governed
unjustly, then they have the right to enter into lawful rebellion.
Lawful rebellion allows quite simply for the following recourse:
Full refusal to pay any forms of tax, fines and any other forms of
monies to support and/or benefit said unlawful governance of this
country.
Full refusal to abide by any Law, Legislation or Statutory
Instrument invalidly put in place by said unlawful governance that
is in breach of the Constitutional safeguard.
To hinder in any way possible all actions of the treasonous
government of this land, who have breached the Constitutional
safeguard; defined with no form of violence in anyway, just lawful
hindrance under freedom asserted by Constitutional Law and Article
61.
Statue law overiding common law?
My understanding is statute law is the consent of the governed and
is contract law.
So can you explain to me how statute law is legally enforceable if
express consent is removed so there is no misunderstanding of
implied consent.like the census?
Example say a Statute law was introduced that said you had to wear
a hat on a Sunday.
If I wrote legal notices and a notice of estoppel-
Could one still be fined/sentenced or imprisoned?
Or would removed consent revert to common law.
If statute law is legally enforceable with removal of express
consent-could you provide a location of the information that
expresses this
I rest my case-Thank you
What case and how have you put it to rest?
None of this explains your rather odd notion of something called "status law;" what is it? :huh:The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0 -
Much the same as a PPC parking fine, some will just blindly pay it.
Do you really think our government would pass up tne chance of fining £1k if they were confident? Intepretations act alone (yes m'lord, I posted it....) would stop all convictions in their tracks.
"Defendant, where is your proof of posting and receipt?"
"Err....don't have one, M'Lud."
"Well, in that case, have a one thousand pound fine."The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark0
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