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The census is after me?

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  • mttylad
    mttylad Posts: 1,520 Forumite
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    However - my point is that there is no obligation to fill in another form in the census acts, neither is proof of postage required.

    I read them all through, including any amendments and could not find these requirements.
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    If the form is not received by the ONS, another will be issued by hand. If the recipient wants to fill it in there and then, the collector will wait. If the form is still not received by the ONS, a meeting can be arranged where a collector can spend time with the householder to help them complete it. If after several attempts of sending n the form, it will be quite clear that the householder is not sending the forms in. Proof of postage will be required to prove the form was posted.
  • Sublime_2
    Sublime_2 Posts: 15,741 Forumite
    I've had a final reminder through. I will complete, at my leisure. I thought that the deadline is August?
  • stan5001
    stan5001 Posts: 91 Forumite
    birkee wrote: »
    In case of a change of occupancy in the near term.
    You will still have to explain why you haven't filled it in.
    How do you justify your occupancy of the house unless you supply the details?

    YOU WILL GET CHARGED.

    Your comments are utter drivel!

    FWIW, I've filled out mine but matey in the flat above me hasn't. They don't know his name, he's never in during sociable hours (I spoke with him at 0730 this morning).

    Have a search on the internet, there's many links to forums where people haven't completed them (including this forum - search for census collector jobs) - they have no power if you don't co-operate.
  • dmg24
    dmg24 Posts: 33,920 Forumite
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    Sublime wrote: »
    I've had a final reminder through. I will complete, at my leisure. I thought that the deadline is August?

    Nobody really cares ...
    Gone ... or have I?
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    Sublime wrote: »
    I've had a final reminder through. I will complete, at my leisure. I thought that the deadline is August?

    No, the deadline has been and passed, that's why you have been sent a "reminder."

    How much more of taxpayers' money do you want to waste?
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    stan5001 wrote: »
    FWIW, I've filled out mine but matey in the flat above me hasn't. They don't know his name, he's never in during sociable hours (I spoke with him at 0730 this morning).

    Have a search on the internet, there's many links to forums where people haven't completed them (including this forum - search for census collector jobs) - they have no power if you don't co-operate.

    What powers do you believe they think they have. Their job is to collect any forms that haven't been returned, to issue replacement or supplementary forms, where needed and to record refusals. It is then the compliance officers' jobs to issue the fines. They will search the local councils records, to establish the who the principal householder is and send them a letter warning them of the consequences of not taking part in the census and if that person still refuses to complete the questionnaire, they take the appropriate action. None of this, "if you don't give them your name you can't agree to be fined," rubbish. The principal householder (the one named on the council tax demand) will get fined.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • Googlewhacker
    Googlewhacker Posts: 3,887 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    No, the deadline has been and passed, that's why you have been sent a "reminder."

    How much more of taxpayers' money do you want to waste?

    As its probably a set amount contract wise I would be guessing Zero.....
    The Googlewhacker referance is to Dave Gorman and not to my opinion of the search engine!

    If I give you advice it is only a view and always always take professional advice before acting!!!

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  • pineapple
    pineapple Posts: 6,934 Forumite
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    edited 5 May 2011 at 1:05AM
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    No, the deadline has been and passed, that's why you have been sent a "reminder."
    You need to do your homework.
    It has been confirmed by the ONS themselves that THERE IS NO LEGAL DEADLINE.
  • pineapple
    pineapple Posts: 6,934 Forumite
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    edited 5 May 2011 at 1:08AM
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    It is then the compliance officers' jobs to issue the fines.
    I beg your pardon? The compliance bods job is to try to persuade you to fill the thing in and/or take evidence of refusal - which may then be used as evidence in a hearing - which then decides on any fine.
    NOT the compliance officer. How on earth did you get that idea?:rotfl:
    The compliance officer's role is also to try to establish 'joinder' (read up on it). Basically come up with a name. Yes we all know about council tax records - she said patiently. But why do you think they didn't address the forms to the council tax payer in the first place. Because the occupier may not be the council tax payer.
    If you read up on the reasons why there were so few prosecutions last time (publically available) it will explain all this (I'm losing the will).
  • pineapple
    pineapple Posts: 6,934 Forumite
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    edited 5 May 2011 at 7:22AM
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    so expect to receive a thousand pound fine.
    I'm thinking you have not quite grasped this yet. The wording is up to. It's amazing what a difference two little words can make.
    In the last census, it was nothing like. Of course they may ramp it up a bit but still those two words up to.
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