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Stripper Opinions - but fear I may regret it.

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  • euronorris
    euronorris Posts: 12,247 Forumite
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    No I don't read these magazines for obvious reasons! I didn't say only hands and face. If GQ had a naked male then that was pornographic and if aimed at heterosexual men one wonders why it was there? Children need protecting from these inappropriate images.

    Are you serious? It's no different to a woman in a bikini on the front cover of a woman's mag. Happens a lot in the summer.

    Not to mention all the pics advertising underwear and swimwear. Are they pornographic images too? You seem to be making no differentiation between images made to titilate and images made for other, non sexual reasons. I find that odd.
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  • stelly
    stelly Posts: 402 Forumite
    Wow this thread has really touched on a sore subject for some.

    OP - do you not think that maybe your OH was just being "one of the lads" in this situation i.e making these comments to his friends with no actual intention of "nailing" a stipper?

    I think a lot of men in these situations like to talk big but maybe when push comes to shove they probably just feel awkward ??

    I'm not a great fan of strip clubs etc but I know others do and therefore have the opinion that it's up to them. Their spending money on what is essentially a fantasy.

    I really don't think the woman who are stripping could care less wether it's your OH or the man from down the road.

    But if you have made it very clear before that you don't want your OH to go and see a stripper then there has been a break down in trust.

    I really don't think your going to get a resolution until you actually sit down and talk to him.
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  • digitalphase
    digitalphase Posts: 2,087 Forumite
    But doesn't it work both ways? Shouldn't the OP be respectful that her husband wants to go and watch strippers and he has every right to do so. Just because she doesn't like the idea of him doing it, doesn't mean he shouldn't do it.

    I really don't like some my OH's friends but I wouldn't for a minute expect him to stop going out with them based on that alone.

    If something makes her feel 'sick to the stomach' and it really, really hurts her, which the OP has made clear it would, then it is very disrespectful of her OH to want to do it. It is a blatant disregard to her feelings, and why would anyone condone that in their relationship?

    I also don't think it can be compared at all to not liking OH's friends.
  • Jo_F
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    dmg24 wrote: »
    I'm not going into details, but my view is from within the industry. Do the strippers feel that they are being objectified? Nope, they see it that they are earning far more than they would otherwise by doing something that they enjoy.

    As someone else in the adult entertainment industry, I agree with the above comment, in 99% of cases, its the paying punter that is being exploited, afterall they are the one paying for an illusion.
  • janninew
    janninew Posts: 3,781 Forumite
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    I have to say, I couldn't stop reading this thread!
    Some of the opinions just made me laugh!! I can just imagine these people with a cross in their hand in front of their face and the other in front of their eyes and screaming every time just a centimeter of skin on a ladies breast comes on the TV....
    One would believe we steped into 18th century..

    OMG, I am sorry, I have very wild imagination... Some of the opinions here are soooo extreme it's unreal!!

    I might shock some too - I have seen my best friends naked, and so they've seen me. We don't generaly just take our clothes off for the fun of it, it usually just happens as we are getting changed to pyjamas, or when my best friend wants me to spray her with self tan. It is completely normal and NOTHING to be ashamed of!!!!

    And I also have the feeling that lots of people are mistaking prostitutes with stripers here...

    My OH has been to a strip club, so what. I buy Cosmopolitan when it has centrofold with naked celebrities (who do it usually for charity). I like to look at a sixpack. It doesn't mean I am some dirty slag just because I do. I find it beatiful.

    DMG24-I applaud you for your arguments. Very well said.

    You may find it normal and nothing to be ashamed being naked with your friends, it doesn't mean everybody does, and people who don't get naked with their friends as abnormal! I'm glad your so relaxed, but can you understand that not everybody is the same? Each relationship is different, the key is finding somebody who shares your views and is willing to respect your feelings. This lady obviously has big issues and doesn't want her husband looking at naked women, this doesn't make her strange at all.
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  • balletshoes
    balletshoes Posts: 16,610 Forumite
    I agree the human body is a very beautiful thing in all its many shapes and sizes, but that does not make it appropriate to flaunt it to anyone other than my spouse or medical practitioner.

    Are you saying you've seen your pregnant friend naked - I sincerly hope not.

    I respect the right of everyone to have their own opinion of whats pornographic - but honestly, to me a naked body is not pornographic.
    Why would I refuse to see a pregnant friend, or any friend, naked? What if she asked me to go to hospital with her and help her get settled in the ward etc? Its not flaunting her body, its getting undressed! I've been on loads of girls holidays in the past where we shared a hotel room, and were naked in front of each other when getting changed etc - I didn't fancy my friends.

    What about life class subjects? As said before the Venus de Milo, David? If they are not pornographic even though they are naked forms, how is seeing any naked body pornographic? There is, in my opinion, a big difference between a naked body photographed for art/practical/science or even discussion purposes, and a naked body specifically photographed for titillation.
  • Any
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    edited 14 March 2011 at 11:48AM
    janninew wrote: »
    You may find it normal and nothing to be ashamed being naked with your friends, it doesn't mean everybody does, and people who don't get naked with their friends as abnormal! I'm glad your so relaxed, but can you understand that not everybody is the same? Each relationship is different, the key is finding somebody who shares your views and is willing to respect your feelings. This lady obviously has big issues and doesn't want her husband looking at naked women, this doesn't make her strange at all.

    It was a commen to Tory Quinn who made it feel into something to be ashamed of. If he can generalise why can't I? Opinions like his are in my opinion even unheathy, and no wonder people have issues with bodies if they are brought up like that. In my opinion only of course.

    I have no issue with people who don't want to see friends body, I am deffending why some do by the way.

    And no idea where did you come from where I said anything about RoxieW being strange. At all.

    You took the whole thing out of context..
  • anderson8
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    i wouldnt be happy if i heard my hubby talking about nailing some strippers. He has already said that he dislikes strip clubs, but i reckon he wouldnt go even if he did like them, cause he wouldnt like me watching male strippers. such is our relationship and everyones is different.
    i dont really have an issue with !!!!!! mags/ lads mags/ !!!!!! movies. different strokes for different folks, you cant dictate what the world should be like just because in your oppinion things should be different.
  • Any
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    I respect the right of everyone to have their own opinion of whats pornographic - but honestly, to me a naked body is not pornographic.
    Why would I refuse to see a pregnant friend, or any friend, naked? What if she asked me to go to hospital with her and help her get settled in the ward etc? Its not flaunting her body, its getting undressed! I've been on loads of girls holidays in the past where we shared a hotel room, and were naked in front of each other when getting changed etc - I didn't fancy my friends.

    What about life class subjects? As said before the Venus de Milo, David? If they are not pornographic even though they are naked forms, how is seeing any naked body pornographic? There is, in my opinion, a big difference between a naked body photographed for art/practical/science or even discussion purposes, and a naked body specifically photographed for titillation.

    What she said...

    Thinking of someone else who is seeing friends naked body as pornographic is definitely weird. It just shows what they are thinking of...
  • janninew
    janninew Posts: 3,781 Forumite
    Any wrote: »
    It was a commen to Tory Quinn who made it feel into something to be ashamed of. If he can generalise why can't I? Opinions like his are in my opinion even unheathy, and no wonder people have issues with bodies if they are brought up like that. In my opinion only of course.

    And no idea where did you come from where I said anything about RoxieW being strange. At all.

    Sorry it wasn't clear that you were responding to another poster, it just looked like a general comment aimed at anybody. All everybody is expressing are their own opinion's, all I was saying is what is normal to you could be entirely unacceptable to somebody else. I
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