Speeding ticket in Vito van

Flyboy152

sniper666 wrote: »

Pretty sure I was not, but it was along time ago so maybe I am wrong on this then.

I actually agree with you but thats not the mentality 99% of driver have though is it? Which is maybe something the goverment need to address.

Most people pass there test and assume that it they done whats needed and dont ever look at the highway code ever again, maybe if it was highlighted to people the importance more people would do it is what I am saying.

But it is, there are regular campaigns to remind drivers to re-visit the highway code and to access the latest revisions. But you can lead a driver to the bookshop and website, but you can't......

I personally think the way our licence sytem works is terrible, everybody should have to do a refresher course every so often to make sure that they are still driving at the standard they should be in my opinion.

Look at people who when they passed there test 40-50+ years ago, things have changed totally both the road and the way we are trained to use them, yet they have never had to do anything at all and still drive like they always have or worse.

Preaching to the choir there Sniper.

Flyboy152

sniper666 wrote: »

Just made an edit to my post, adding further to my veiw on this also as I say car and van license should not be the same license IMO.

An your teling me if an advert came on and highlighted a knowen issue such as van speed limits and made people go to themself oh I did not know about that, that some people would not then look into brushing up their knowlage about the highway code?

I am not saying it will totally fix the problem but atleast they are trying to educate people of such issues instead of just going down the same old route of lets just fine everybody and thats enough. Its not enough is it as it is not working.

But how many times do we hear, "can't they find something more important to spend money on?" "blooming nanny state, telling us what to do...."

sniper666

Well we carnt have it both ways though, they either want to improve the way people use the roads in which case they need to be a little more proactive than simpley fining people which makes them simpley look like they do it for the money, particulay when there are laws people know nothing about as in this case.

Or they are not that bothered about road safety and listening to people saying as you just quoted. But to say they care then go at it the way they do really is not helping them in my veiw.

Just another thing Government carnt seem to get right really.

Criminal justice system = FAIL
NHS = FAIL
Transport = FAIL
Social Care = FAIL
Pensions & Benifits = FAIL

Anything run by government = FAIL

mikey72

Mad Max.
Total anarchy is the only way.
If you upset me, I should be able to shoot you with a crossbow, or chase you down and set fire to you.
Or maybe the government are doing some good.

spiro

Flyboy152 wrote: »

But it is, there are regular campaigns to remind drivers to re-visit the highway code and to access the latest revisions. But you can lead a driver to the bookshop and website, but you can't......

Agree the website http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/index.htm is quick and costs you nothing. If in doubt check especially if you drive something different from usual.

newwen112

If it's over 3.5 tons GVW then I believe it is 40 on a Single carriageway.

Flyboy152

newwen112 wrote: »

If it's over 3.5 tons GVW then I believe it is 40 on a Single carriageway.

No, you are wrong.

Doooford

Gandalfthesecond wrote: »

No it's not.

Should they also tell you not to drive it when p1$$ed?

Unwise comparison Gandalfthesecond, it may not be a legal requirement to give a noddy's guide, but people who hire vans to move house and for other domestic purposes will probably only drive one once or twice in their life time.
Using your example, if I was buying a carving knife or an axe, then I wouldn't expect a shop keeper to tell me not to stab/chop anyone on the way home. It would not though be unreasonable for them to inform me of how I should concealed at all times and hidden from view whilst I'm travelling home.

I hired a carpet cleaner a few weeks back and was asked if I knew how to use it. I said that I'm pretty sure it's obvious enough but a quick run through of the basics would be good. Got a 30 second lesson there and then. Turns out it was obvious, but still valuable.

The point is, I think this comes down in some part to what used to be "Customer Serivce". I think it would be common courtesy. In my view, if a hirer is only giving you information that they are legally obliged to then it is a very sad state of affairs.

Flyboy152

Doooford wrote: »

Unwise comparison Gandalfthesecond, it may not be a legal requirement to give a noddy's guide, but people who hire vans to move house and for other domestic purposes will probably only drive one once or twice in their life time.

Using your example, if I was buying a carving knife or an axe, then I wouldn't expect a shop keeper to tell me not to stab/chop anyone on the way home. It would not though be unreasonable for them to inform me of how I should concealed at all times and hidden from view whilst I'm travelling home.

I hired a carpet cleaner a few weeks back and was asked if I knew how to use it. I said that I'm pretty sure it's obvious enough but a quick run through of the basics would be good. Got a 30 second lesson there and then. Turns out it was obvious, but still valuable.

The point is, I think this comes down in some part to what used to be "Customer Serivce". I think it would be common courtesy. In my view, if a hirer is only giving you information that they are legally obliged to then it is a very sad state of affairs.

If that is the case, they (and us) have a lot more to worry about than speed limits.

optimus_primera

newwen112 wrote: »

If it's over 3.5 tons GVW then I believe it is 40 on a Single carriageway.

Its over 7.5T gross weight single carriageway,that is limited to 40mph,50mph dual carriageways,and 60mph on motorway (although the EU have limited that to 56mph)