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Speeding ticket in Vito van

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  • Tilt
    Tilt Posts: 3,599 Forumite
    nexus2011 wrote: »
    Transit/luton type van is 50 single carriageway / 60 on a dual carriageway and 70 on a motorway (60 mph if towing trailer)

    Astra type van is 60 single carriageway / 70 on a dual carriageway and 70 on a motorway (60 mph if towing trailer)

    Providing that the GVW is no more than 7,500kg.

    Se here; http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/Motoring/DriverSafety/DG_178867
    PLEASE NOTE
    My advice should be used as guidance only. You should always obtain face to face professional advice before taking any action.
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    photome wrote: »
    I didnt know about different speed limits for vans

    That makes the speed of some of the white vans I see on dual c and motorways incredulous.

    90/100 plus

    The speed limit for a van, under seven and a half tonnes, on the motorway, is the same as a car.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    wba31 wrote: »
    what's the limit for vans on motorways then? i often see them doing 80+ with no problems...

    Well, obviously it is not eighty miles per hour. ;)
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    sniper666 wrote: »
    This law seems madness to me, its been around for ages but yet so many people dont know about it. I only know about it after seeing a different thread on here where someone was caught and was asking for advise.

    .

    All clearly explained here;

    http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/TravelAndTransport/Highwaycode/DG_070304
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    sniper666 wrote: »
    This law seems madness to me, its been around for ages but yet so many people dont know about it. I only know about it after seeing a different thread on here where someone was caught and was asking for advise.

    Seems mad to me that there is a law nobody is taught when going for your license, to be honest I think there should be a seperate test for vans and van laws.

    But it is the onus of the driver to read the highway code. Although I took my driving test many decades ago, I do believe there is a module, on the written test, for speed limits.
    There is for trailers now, always has been for bus or lorry, yet anybody with a car license can just jump in a big van and without knowing the different laws that apply.

    Only if you took your test after 1 January 1997.
    Its almost like they want us to break the law so they can fine us, bit like speeding. Why have cars that are able to go faster than the speed limit??? Oh thats right so they can make money from it when we do.

    But this law has been around for decades. It's not if someone suddenly decided on a new revenue stream last week. There is a very obvious reason for these limits.
    Technology we have now means all vehicles made could be fitted with a system where the vehicle knows the locations speed limit and the vehicle is limited to that speed. Problem fixed nobody can speed, but oh thats right then they would not make any money from us all.

    That may be practical for new vehicles, but not for the millions already on the road.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • wba31
    wba31 Posts: 2,189 Forumite
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Well, obviously it is not eighty miles per hour. ;)

    ah nuts, ill scrap my plans to buy a van then!

    i really need to read my posts before i hit the button...
  • sniper666
    sniper666 Posts: 54 Forumite
    edited 28 February 2011 at 12:51PM
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    But it is the onus of the driver to read the highway code. Although I took my driving test many decades ago, I do believe there is a module, on the written test, for speed limits.

    Oh yeah I forgot I am the only person in this country who has a car license and does not read the highway code and make sure I read about any new additions to the laws.

    The way it works currently obviously does not work does it as most people know nothing about this law.

    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Only if you took your test after 1 January 1997.

    True and I would expect the same thing with the van idea unfortunatly, as you carnt go and take away things like that unfortunatly.
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    But this law has been around for decades. It's not if someone suddenly decided on a new revenue stream last week. There is a very obvious reason for these limits.

    I also said the law has been around for ages so why are you telling me this? I never said the law was a bad idea either, so why are you telling me this? I am simpley saying the goverment suck at dealing with things like this, an police love it cos then they can sting people who are not informed or trained well enough in the first place, making money from fines for a law that 90% of road users dont even know exists.

    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    That may be practical for new vehicles, but not for the millions already on the road.

    Well sooner they start it, the sooner all vehicles will have this in place no??? Or should we just keep with the current system of having vehicles able to do 250MPH legal on british roads but if you go over the speed limit we will fine you so we can make money attitude?
  • Inactive
    Inactive Posts: 14,509 Forumite
    sniper666 wrote: »
    Oh yeah I forgot I am the only person in this country who has a car license and does not read the highway code and make sure I read about any new additions to the laws.

    If you don't know what the Highway Code says, then you can only blame yourself for getting done for speeding if you are caught breaking any imposed limits..
  • Flyboy152
    Flyboy152 Posts: 17,118 Forumite
    sniper666 wrote: »
    Oh yeah I forgot I am the only person in this country who has a car license and does not read the highway code and make sure I read about any new additions to the laws.

    The way it works currently obviously does not work does it as most people know nothing about this law.

    Ignorance of the law is no defence. There are many things in life, of which people are unaware of their legality, should everyone be given training in the law of everything?

    True and I would expect the same thing with the van idea unfortunatly, as you carnt go and take away things like that unfortunatly.



    I also said the law has been around for ages so why are you telling me this? I never said the law was a bad idea either, so why are you telling me this? I am simpley saying the goverment suck at dealing with things like this, an police love it cos then they can sting people who are not informed or trained well enough in the first place, making money from fines for a law that 90% of road users dont even know exists.

    But you seem to believe that it is nothing more than a money making exercise. If drivers can't be bothered to read the highway code, that is not the fault of the police, the authorities or the government.

    Well sooner they start it, the sooner all vehicles will have this in place no??? Or should we just keep with the current system of having vehicles able to do 250MPH legal on british roads but if you go over the speed limit we will fine you so we can make money attitude?

    This I would resist until my last breath. The government, or anyone else, has no business knowing where I take my car.

    It is NOT legal to drive a car at two hundred and fifty miles per hour on British roads.
    The greater danger, for most of us, lies not in setting our aim too high and falling short; but in setting our aim too low and achieving our mark
  • Flyboy152 wrote: »
    Ignorance of the law is no defence. There are many things in life, of which people are unaware of their legality, should everyone be given training in the law of everything?

    No, your right it is our own responsibility, but I am saying if the goverment truely wanted things to be better they would not simpley fine people as they catch them but raise peoples awareness of the law. I think this would actually work better personally, then if you still break the law you deserve the fine its only fair.
    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    But you seem to believe that it is nothing more than a money making exercise. If drivers can't be bothered to read the highway code, that is not the fault of the police, the authorities or the government. ?

    It is simpley a money making exersice, otherwise they would do something other than just fine people they catch doing it, informing people of it would be a good idea no? How can you expect people to not break a law when most drivers dont know the law even exists?

    Flyboy152 wrote: »
    This I would resist until my last breath. The government, or anyone else, has no business knowing where I take my car.

    It is NOT legal to drive a car at two hundred and fifty miles per hour on British roads.

    Why would the goverment need to know where you are??? An your against anybody else knowing aswell? Strange so you dont like satnavs? mobile phones?

    Sat navs already have the option of warning you that your breaking the locations speed limit so why not build the system into cars better so that the car is restricted to the locations speed limit?

    As for legal to drive at 250 mph erm i never actually said that, I said that its legal to have a car that can do that speed.
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