Fuming about atos medical

Richie-from-the-Boro

ellenstan wrote: »

Massive amounts of information re the esa system can be found at dwp examination blog and forum we have learned a lot in the last 18months.Filling in the ESA 50 form correctly is very important Atos look for things that are consistant with the descriptors ,using the wording in the descriptors is a great advantage,being prepared for the WCA is also a must.No one will pass if they go to the assessment unaware of what it entails,the doubters may one day have to go themselves ,I assure you they will soon change their tune.
The ESA WCA system is corrupt through and through in the end it will become undefendable as more and more people get to understand the corruption.

Good Blog, I liked this from there :T

sonorman

explumber wrote: »

they certainly didnt believe these poor people,
www.inclusionscotland.org/news/story.asp?id=2737.
take care.

Of course these things will happen. Nobody is suggesting that ATOS or the DWP are always right. Neither can it be said that all IB, ESA and DLA claimants are as genuine as the driven snow!

So there has to be a system that is intended to snare the benefit cheats and in the process some innocent people will get caught up in the cross fire. It is called collateral damage.

The question of regular retesting has to take place, how would the DWP find out who is or is not entitled to benefit on a regular basis.

History so far has told us that the Government cannot rely on the honesty of the general public. How many DLA claims were/have been accepted and granted on a 'for life' & 'indefinite' basis.
How many of those have voluntarily told the DWP that they have improved and don't need DLA anymore?

Likewise with IB, claimants were left far too long without being retested.

Don't blame the Government or ATOS for what is happening. You should be looking to the benefit cheats that have caused this system to be employed.

explumber

sonorman wrote: »

Of course these things will happen. Nobody is suggesting that ATOS or the DWP are always right. Neither can it be said that all IB, ESA and DLA claimants are as genuine as the driven snow!

So there has to be a system that is intended to snare the benefit cheats and in the process some innocent people will get caught up in the cross fire. It is called collateral damage.

The question of regular retesting has to take place, how would the DWP find out who is or is not entitled to benefit on a regular basis.

History so far has told us that the Government cannot rely on the honesty of the general public. How many DLA claims were/have been accepted and granted on a 'for life' & 'indefinite' basis.
How many of those have voluntarily told the DWP that they have improved and don't need DLA anymore?

Likewise with IB, claimants were left far too long without being retested.

Don't blame the Government or ATOS for what is happening. You should be looking to the benefit cheats that have caused this system to be employed.

DWP own figures for fraud. 0.6% of claiments. go figure !!

sonorman

explumber wrote: »

DWP own figures for fraud. 0.6% of claiments. go figure !!

Yes 0.6% of known fraud!

snoopy89

"History so far has told us that the Government cannot rely on the honesty of the general public"

well that's ok. we can't trust mps, , civil servants, atos and the pm as most have been proved liers at some time in history.

so what now.:)

sonorman

snoopy89 wrote: »

"History so far has told us that the Government cannot rely on the honesty of the general public"

well that's ok. we can't trust mps, , civil servants, atos and the pm as most have been proved liers at some time in history.

so what now.:)

The difference is that they have all of the power and we do as we are told!

Nobody is without blame, but we must trust in democracy - we are the ones that put the politicians there!

As for the civil servants, to be honest, they are working to an impossible target sometimes. They are in the main the most trustworthy.

explumber

sonorman wrote: »

The difference is that they have all of the power and we do as we are told!

Nobody is without blame, but we must trust in democracy - we are the ones that put the politicians there!

As for the civil servants, to be honest, they are working to an impossible target sometimes. They are in the main the most trustworthy.

Contradiction!!
they have all of the power and we do as we are told!.
but we must trust in democracy.
i would suggest you google the word democracy.
"we are the ones that put the politicians there".
Not so, none of the parties recieved a majority vote.

dilizjo

SohoAnthem wrote: »

I don't want to start a new thread when there's already one going about Atos. They've requested I go for a medical examination, in an area unknown to me and I'd have to take public transport to get there. I'm claiming ESA for Agoraphobia/Anxiety. There's no way I can get there without suffering from plenty of panic attacks & distress along the way.

And if I go through it all and get there, I'm sure they'll tell me there's nothing wrong with me because I got there, despite what it took. I requested a home visit from them, my doctor faxed through the details of why I need a home visit. They refused to give me a home visit.

I'm going to call them and explain that there's no way I can possibly get there. I'm at a loss. I don't understand why I've been refused a home visit. Any suggestions?

Complain in writing to both ATOS and DWP, my son has the same issues, I complained when they on 2 occasions cancelled his appointment at short notice, causing him to lock himself in his besdroom for days, they had had the extra evidence faxed through from his Doctor and totally ignored it, but after my complaint they have agreed a home visit. So complain like mad and make it clear that their insistence to carry the assessment in one of their centres is detrimental to your wellbeing.

crabby5167

I had my medical in jan 2012 and failed with 6 points,filled in my gl24 appeal form and had my money cut to £67.50.Won my appeal on the 26 april 2012 and had my money put back to £97 per week,on the 28 april recieved a letter telling me im to have another medical.....they waited 2 days !!!!!!.....can they do this?.....im not sure if i can handle the whole stressfull thing again

wiccanlou

Yes they can they can make you attend a medical every 3 months if they wish to do so.