Fuming about atos medical

dmg24

WhiteHorse wrote: »

Atos finds breast cancer sufferer fit for work.
Man with arm in plaster also found completely fit.
Source: Nick Sommerlad, Daily Mirror Investigations Blog ‘Sick declared fit by Atos Origin assessors’ 21/10/2010.
http://blogs.mirror.co.uk/investigations/2010/10/sick-declared-fit-by-atos-orig.html

Atos finds terminally ill patient fit for work.
Vincent Nestor was diagnosed with incurable stomach cancer when he was sent for a triple heart bypass operation. He later scored zero points during a WCA, and was then told he was fit to work.
Source: BBC News 'Fears new benefits tests will force sick to work' 12/08/2010.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-10945510

Atos finds terminally ill patient fit for work.
An engineer in his 50's who had recently undergone a triple bypass for heart disease and was being treated for incurable stomach and liver cancer was found fit for work by an Atos assessor.
Source: Amelia Gentleman 'Flawed benefit system classifies terminally ill man 'fit for work'. Guardian JoePublic Blog 23/03/2010
www.guardian.co.uk/society/joepublic/2010/mar/23/employment-support-allowance-incapacity-benefit

Atos finds terminally ill patient fit for work.
A CAB client who had a genetic kidney disorder and who had had one kidney and part of the other kidney removed. She also had sciatica and spondylosis. She was found not to have limited capability for work. She has since been told that her condition may be terminal.
Source: Citizens Advice Bureau report 'Not Working' March 2010.
www.citizensadvice.org.uk/not_working_march_2010_final.pdf

One huge flaw in your argument - ATOS does not declare anybody fit for work. The DWP makes that decision.

Markoo_2

Any idea how long it will take before i can get a copy of the medical report? i only had the medical today, its drving me crazy now i just want to know what she has written!

The amount of stress this is causing disabled people is shocking. appeals are taking over 6 months which is just constant stress put on people who are already struggling to live their lives with a disability we dont need all this added stress.

im so angry right now, i can just see this having to go to appeal, and its not just because the examiner got it wrong its because the examiner is trying their damedest to purposely disallow people. i can not express how angry i feel how can they get away with this!

Markoo_2

dmg24 wrote: »

One huge flaw in your argument - ATOS does not declare anybody fit for work. The DWP makes that decision.

Dont be so stupid you know exactly what the point is and thats atos are writing unfair reports in a way that greatly reduces the chance of the claiment been awarded making the decision just as much in the hands of atos as it is for the dwp

kaya

phone the dwp in the morning and inform them you wish to begin the official complaints procedure against atos because of the way they treated you, then refuse to have anything more to do with atos due to your ongoing and unsettled complaint, tell the dwp to contact your consultant/surgeons etc if they require any information about your condition, then make an appointment to see your local mp and tell them what it is regarding, i did, worked miracles, everything sorted out properly within 10 days including arrears, i didnt even make it to the mp appointment they acted so quickly

naughtyjo

As far as I am aware its not a written report thats done as such they tick boxes on pre determined questions. My mum had her medical last year and at that time she was awaiting a full hip replacement, was in constant pain and wheelchair bound. She was left waiting in the waiting room for over one hour and my dad basically said that if she wasnt seen within the next 5 mins they were leaving. Only mum dad and the doctor were present as the nurse by this time had gone home!
She got her report and did pass the medical but the doctor has wrote mum sat on a plastic chair for 1 hour when she was in her wheelchair then said the nurse had done a b and c when there was no nurse. When mum complained they said sorry but its a computer generated report and you have to tick boxes so the fact they lied was not relevant
Good Luck but complain now it can take 6 weeks for your report

celinepatricia

dmg24 wrote: »

One huge flaw in your argument - ATOS does not declare anybody fit for work. The DWP makes that decision.

DWP get their information from ATOS and ignore any other information given by the person attending the medical. My husband was also found capable of work, scored zero points, and, has terminal cancer.

WhiteHorse

dmg24 wrote: »

One huge flaw in your argument - ATOS does not declare anybody fit for work. The DWP makes that decision.

There is no argument. The first three are press reports. The fourth is an investigation.

If you don't like the facts, or find them otherwise inconvenient, I would suggest that you take it up with the Daily Mirror, The Guardian, The BBC, and the Citizens Advice Bureau.

WhiteHorse

skcollobcat10 wrote: »

DWP decision makers are not qualified in healthcare and I cannot see how they can make a decision on disabled patients with regards benefits.

Correct.

Atos rejects necessity of medical examiners possessing specialist diagnostic qualifications.
Source: Melissa Viney, The Guardian 'Draconian incapacity benefit tests are failing the sick' 29/07/2010.
www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2010/jul/29/incapacity-benefit-failing

I feel both DWP and the mickey mouse organisation that is ATOS (originally a technology company) are both working together with the primary aim of removing most people off the benefits.

Correct.

Atos whistleblower exposes agenda to maximise rejections. [Other patient experiences].
Source: Amelia Gentleman 'Response suggests many people wrongly judged fit for work'. Guardian JoePublic Blog 29/03/2010
www.guardian.co.uk/society/joepublic/2010/mar/29/reader-responses-fit-to-work

WhiteHorse

snoopy89 wrote: »

i had talksport radio on last night all night till 6 this morning, they had invited atos in to talk about the tests etc, they refused to send someone ...

They usually do.

... one caller said that atos were being sued in the states for billions by the goverment.

Well, there's certainly this one ...

Diamond firm De Beers sues Atos Origin for £8.6m.
De Beers contracts with Atos for £2.6m software upgrade. Atos fails to deliver then renounces contract after demanding an additional £4.6m.
Source: Daily Mail reporter, Mail Online 'Diamond giant De Beers sues IT firm in £8.6 million row' 13/04/2009.
www.dailymail.co.uk/money/article-1169753/Diamond-giant-De-Beers-sues-IT-firm-8-6million-row.html

headcone

dmg24 wrote: »

One huge flaw in your argument - ATOS does not declare anybody fit for work. The DWP makes that decision.

That has to be one of the most puerile posts ever on MSE.