Unsolicited catalogues (Betterware)

Oopsadaisy

No-one advocates being rude to collectors [except perhaps those who ignore signs saying no Cold Callers etc].

Since you have 'lower fixed costs' why are your products so massively over-priced??? [That's rhetorical BTW].

bayness0

I do know what rhetorical means. So this is a general answer, not one to you.

How do you work out the price of an item (all businesses not just Betterware). You estimate what the public will pay.

How do you work out the cost to sell the item - All costs associated with procuring, marketing etc.

The difference equals the profit, sometimes the loss.

There is no direct relationship between cost and price. There is cost, price and profit.

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On the no cold callers sign
Reputable Catalogues Companies, such as Betterware and Avon are not included in the no cold callers sign. If you don't want the catalogues tell us or put up a no catalogues sign.

glider3560

bayness0 wrote: »

On the no cold callers sign
Reputable Catalogues Companies, such as Betterware and Avon are not included in the no cold callers sign. If you don't want the catalogues tell us or put up a no catalogues sign.

Why should I have to go through the hassle of putting up an additional sign. "No Cold Calling Area - We do not buy goods or services at the door" is, in my opinion, good enough wording to state that we won't buy from you. If you choose to put the catalogue through my door, it will go in the recycling bin along with the other junk mail.

bayness0

And that is your decision, the cold calling sign is defined by the Government not us.

It actually makes it more difficult for us.

cajef

bayness0 wrote: »

On the no cold callers sign
Reputable Catalogues Companies, such as Betterware and Avon are not included in the no cold callers sign. If you don't want the catalogues tell us or put up a no catalogues sign.

Where did that gem of information come from, can you please provide and link to the relevant documentation/legislation to confirm this statement.

System

cajef wrote: »

Where did that gem of information come from, can you please provide and link to the relevant documentation/legislation to confirm this statement.

I believe that betterware aren't classed as "cold callers" because they drop the catalogue off before and then return a few days later after you had chance to read it.

I know surrey council don't class them as cold callers in their cold calling zones

"Cold Calling Zone is not designed to prevent people from distributing leaflets or catalogues such as Betterware or the “Avon Lady”. It is also not designed to stop people on legitimate business such as gas, electricity and water meter readers"

cajef

goater78 wrote: »

I believe that betterware aren't classed as "cold callers" because they drop the catalogue off before and then return a few days later after you had chance to read it.


"Cold Calling Zone is not designed to prevent people from distributing leaflets or catalogues such as Betterware or the “Avon Lady”.

That may be applicable to a 'Cold Calling Zone' but I would dispute that that applies to signs on peoples private property.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/phones/no-more-junk

They are still doorstep traders and from the MSE link above I would think this may apply:-

As Trading Standards says, it's a criminal offence for traders (not charities/relig groups) to ignore cold calling signs under the regulations on our sign. If they persist complain to the company and to Trading Standards.

System

cajef wrote: »

That may be applicable to a 'Cold Calling Zone' but I would dispute that that applies to signs on peoples private property.

http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/phones/no-more-junk

They are still doorstep traders and from the MSE link above I would think this may apply:-

I think the whole thing is probably a bit of a grey area.

The worse type of cold calling are people who knock on your door with a bag of goods they are trying to sell (or those charity people after debit card numbers).

Betterware are pretty harmless in my opinion. The catalogue comes through the door, then a few days later you have to hand it back to someone. I've never really thought it was an issue.

bayness0

It is a bit of a grey area, but as the Trading Standards itslef states it is not designed to stop catalogue companies. It is to stop rogue traders and distraction thefts.

If you don't want a catalogue, tell the distributor. They don't want to waste catalogues on people who don't actually want them.

glider3560

bayness0 wrote: »

If you don't want a catalogue, tell the distributor. They don't want to waste catalogues on people who don't actually want them.

Or just throw them in the bin. Has the same effect.

I'm not in when we get our weekly catalogues through the door, each time from a different person. Am I expected to take a day off work to inform the distributor that I don't want their catalogues any more?