MSE Parents Club Part 16

Clarieloo

Don't have any advice I'm afriad Sparkle but we moved LO into his room on Saturday night (6 weeks old) and I would say we have all slept better for the last 2 nights. So maybe move him back again and see how it goes.

Make-it-3

Well the advice is to keep them in your room till 6 months, so it seems a little early to me, but each baby and parent is unique. Just wondering if you just think he's waking more because you can hear him and you didn't when he was in his room? Sometimes they just stir and go back to sleep themselves.

As its only been one night, I'd give it a few more, if you then think both you and he are having more disruptive sleep then switch back.

*BigBird*

Does your hubby snore, Sparkle? (Not you, obviously, we ladies don't snore ) It might be that when your LO is coming into his lighter phases of sleep, other noises in the bedroom are rousing him. Even just heavy breathing might do it. Joe's been in his own room from 8 weeks. It wasn't my choice at that age, but he outgrew his moses basket and we couldn't fit the cot in our room. But we all slept so much better after that.

What do you mean by "needy" in the daytime? More needy than usual? It could be something unrelated - maybe he's starting to cut some teeth and needs more cuddles? Or do you just think he's being more needy because you feel bad about putting him in his own room? I'd put him back in his own room personally, based on my own experience, but you know him the best so the best advice is to follow your own instincts

Joe's cutting another tooth. We had to bring out the big guns and give him Ibuprofen and Calpol last night as he was really upset. It took me ages to get him to sleep, then he woke an hour later screaming and it took me a good 45 minutes to calm him down and back to sleep. Another hour and he was up again, DH's turn this time though I helped with administering the calpol. We were expecting to have a night of it and had agreed that I'd do the get ups for the first half of the night and DH would take the second lot, but he settled OK til about 5:30. There were tears again when DH dropped him at nursery though so I'm feeling like a bad mummy again today

And we've just found out that SIL is pregnant We asked a few weeks ago if they wanted their moses basket and a few other baby things back and they said no, so obviously not planned - it's a good job we put everything in the loft in preparation for us maybe having another one! They're happy about it though. And I'm very excited, it'll be nice to have another wee one for cuddles Joe's not very cuddly at all now, too busy climbing and generally causing mischief. Even when he was upset last night, he wanted to be lying in his cot with us stroking his back or patting his bottom, rather than having a cuddle

sparkle76

Hi, thanks all.
It's been around a week now, so we're more tired and grumpy I guess!
Bigbird he was crying lots before if I left a room for more than a couple of mins, and I thought that might be because he'd gotten used to crying in his nursery in order to get me to come to him for a feed. Since being in with us, he cries less in the day it seems to me, maybe it's just coincidence.
Hubby doesn't snore but sometimes breathes loudly, could be that I guess. Our cat hates LO being in with us as it used to be his right, so he will come up and miow, adding to the already tired atmosphere!
In our room I don't feed him immediately as I wait to see if he's just stirring, but he's def hungry, and yowls loudly to show intent (rather than cry as I don't let him get to that stage) until I pick him up to feed. Patting and rocking don't work, only milk...
I want to keep him with us, he is outgrowing his basket now so we need to decide which room to assemble the cot in, we have until this weekend max really. Will see how tonight goes...

wendz86

Sparkle - I think they go through a growth spurt around 12weeks? Might be why hes waking more.

Congrats to your SIL Bigbird! Feels like everyone is having babies at the moment, know loads due begining of next year.

Went to a wedding at the weekend and Poppy was really well behaved. She started shouting a bit during ceremony so OH took her out back where all the other dads and babies were haha. They were really thoughtful and on the table at the meal she had a little lamaze doll wiating for her which she absolutely loved, she was happy to sit in highchair and play with it throughout the meal. She got a bit grumpy in the night so we left a bit early but i was tired too!

pigpen

Sparkle.. I would go with it being a growth spurt rather than anything else if he is actually hungry.

delain

Hi all :hello:

We've still got Squeak in with us at the moment The new plan is that the older 3 girls are going to have to share, not that I'm too happy about that and that Squeak for now will have the box room, to eventually share with baby sister lol. I have explained to the older girls that this won't be forever because we're still trying to find a bigger house, and it has been pointed out to me that we're lucky to have a house with a BTL landlord with a cheap rent (we are paying £100 a month less than some of our immediate neighbours) a house that isn't damp and the LL isn't likely to suddenly decide he needs to move back in, which is how my friend ended up in a B&B with dealers and pr*stitutes outside with 3 LO's.

OH flatly refused to have Squeak and baby in with us and I suppose he is right, no one wants their 18 m/o old being woken up 3 times a night and not being able to go back to sleep

We still have ongoing issues with KH's family, happy happy joy joy, DD1 has now picked up on this and spent most of yesterday having a go at me because she hasn't been there, so it's all a bit of an uphill struggle at the moment. I know she misses KH's mum but until she bucks her ideas up and follows the rules it just isn't going to happen.

She also tried to blackmail DD1 and said that if we moved away they would never see her again because she can't drive that far and that would be my fault... Never mind that we have lots of other family here and would be coming back to see them reasonably often... That is after she told the children that she 'doesn't like the way I talk' and that I 'can't tell her what to do' and she tells them that they shouldn't have to tidy up after themselves and that I shouldn't give them showers they should have baths (?!)

And even after all this she fails to understand why I am hacked off with her and thinks I am just keeping them away from her because I don't want her to see them :mad: I am just sick to death of being belittled and undermined :mad::mad:

Squeak has a bug, she sounds like she has been smoking 40 a day

Sparkle sounds to me like he's used to being on his own and the noises from you guys are probably disturbing him

sparkle76

Thanks guys, ah what to do eh, what to do... that combined with him only having short naps in the day, means he should sleep better at night but we will see how the next few days go, hopefully by the weekend we will know what to do.

Wendz, sounds like Poppy was the perfect guest, and so thoughtful of them to put the doll there for her.

Delain, she sounds like a nightmare, hopefully you can stick to your guns and do what you feel is best, as that is what matters after all. How long can you last though, I guess you will get pressure from all sides.
I have the same issue with my mum, thankfully she lives abroad, but last time we spoke instead of supporting me she just criticised and made out like I should let baby cry as it's 'good for his lungs', should start to wean him at 3 months as it 'didn't do the 3 of us any harm' and that I should feed him formula at night so we get more sleep.
So I haven't called her for a week, I feel a bit guilty but at the same time, that she'd listen and support me when I call rather than insisting I follow advice she followed 32 years ago.

delain

This is my ex MIL and believe me if I wrote all the history down I'd have MSE's first 5 page long single post lol Sometimes I just whinge about it, I know most people must be sick of it by now

Mums can be quite insensitive... my mum and even my nan know that the advice changes all the time and wouldn't go on at me like that (helps that they know I'd ignore it anyways ) Hopefully yours will calm down a bit when she realises she's upset you, and hey if she's abroad she won't be on hand with loads of sweets every day when LO gets bigger

Remember your LO is still only tiny, his sleep will sort itself out. Squeak used to be up until about 9 and she has dropped her second daytime sleep herself and now goes to bed just after 7 and is (yay :j:j) staying in her own bed more and more. Hopefully going into the box room will be positive for her, although she'll be a pain for a while getting out of bed and being a menace I expect.

She usually has 2hrs in the morning and maybe a quick doze off in the buggy on the school run but no more than that except when she's ill.

My Squeak woke up from her nap today actually and had a proper grump, she was just clinging to me crying and wouldn't be put down so she went straight back to bed. She grabbed her favourite blanket and hasn't made a peep though so she must have gone back to sleep.

Very very windy here today, so I've got jeans of varying kinds and sheets all the way down the length of the garden and still had to put the duvet covers in the dryer.

Becles

Sparkle - there's nothing to feel guilty about if he you prefer him being in his own room.

I know guidelines say and all that, but babies don't follow the rules and sometimes you have to do what you feel is best for you and your baby.

Josh was in our room for two nights and he was such a noisy sleeper, I just wasn't getting any sleep at all as I was just laying dozing thinking he was going to wake up in a minute. He went in a room on his own and I slept much better, and the other two went straight in their own rooms from birth.

Charlotte is a nightmare to sleep with. I slept in a double bed with her at my parents caravan and it was like fighting with an octopus all night as she didn't stay still and she shouts out random things. I'd just got into bed on Saturday night and was dozing off and I heard her shout "no Jack, no, stop it!" :rotfl: