What happened to getting married before having children?

pigpen

do_it_today! wrote: »

I didnt know that? but then when was the last time I picked up a bible...;)

I last picked one up to squish a fly on the kitchen window.. then put it back under the wobbly table leg!

The bible is merely a bunch of chinese whisper style stories passed through generations and interpretted as each person wanted..usually to undermine or alienate other social groups/races.. I shall therefore indulge in my shellfish and living in sin!

chomsky_2

I don't think you have to be married to have kids if you are in a loving stable relationship, as having children is a massive commitment. However I think people are often not aware of the legal implications of cohabiting and their rights. I was shocked that all my friends who co habit think there is such a thing as a common law wife. I had to explain that couples who are not married or not civil partnered have fewer rights than married couples and cannot inherit from each other unless there is a Will and they are specifically named.

I found this out from the problems my unmarried aunt had when my uncle died without a will. Poor women had an awful time of it.

I think if you live together and are not married it's wise to make provisions for each other and for any children, should the worst happen.

pigpen

It is so much cheaper to make a will than get married.. and you can change it as often as you wish.. and you don't have to spend a day with those rellies you'd rather be without!.. another plus to NOT marrying!

OrkneyStar

I am a Christian and so marriage is important to me. I would ask others to respect that in the same way I respect their values and choices on whether to marry or not.
Why are we all trying to make others think and do the same way as we do, or using derogatory language directed at anyone who dares not to share our opinion ?
TBH is this thread not really more of a DT thread anyway ?

daviecol

I don't think it matters if your married or not bringing up children, however I do think that benefits should be the same across the board. I've worked hard all my life and when I got made redundant I received £55 per week to live off, despite paying many thousands of pounds in tax over 25 years.

If young woman and men were told if they had children they wouldn't receive child tax credits that shame a working mans wage maybe they'd think twice before having babies they can't afford to look after financially themselves!

I hate the Tories but am soooooooooooo looking forward to when the benefit cuts kick in, why should decent hard working people like me, my wife and now my grown up kids pay for usless scrounging layabouts to live of the system, hard times ahead indeed, but his time for everyone!

pigpen

but if you look carefully at these 'benefit cuts' they are more like benefit renamings and alterations.. very little is going to be changing overall.

My family is much better off with my OH out of work (he was made redundant last year and jobs are like rocking horse poo here)

daviecol

Lol they've only been in a month, remember Thatcher? I'll be interested to see what happens to child tax credit in the next 5 years

sharnad

thing people realised it was an expensive waste of time

pigpen

daviecol wrote: »

Lol they've only been in a month, remember Thatcher? I'll be interested to see what happens to child tax credit in the next 5 years

I know exactly what will happen.. the country will end up in a complete shambles.. labour will be voted in and spend 2-3 terms sorting out the tories mess (and whatever 'war' they have launched us into in the meantime) and the country will whine things aren't happening fast enough and be stupid enough to vote the idiot tories back in again..

daviecol

Don't get me wrong, I hate the Tories. Thatcher should've been publicly flogged for bringing in Poll Tax, when your country riots in the streets about a policy being forced onto them any government should take stock and do the right thing.

However, there is no doubt that Labours (who I have always voted for) policies to help easy the pain on single parents finances has, in fact created a society that rewards single non working parents handsomely. And penalises hard working couples with children who are trying to do the right thing.

When I lost my job my wife should've left me and got a council house with all the trimmings (benefits). However what kind of example is that to set for our children?

So we stayed together and did it (and are still doing it) the hard way, whilst all those crappy teenage mothers that I see in the streets screaming f**king hurry up our Britney! at their doomed children outside our local burger takeaway live life on the free thanks to housing benefit, child tax credit, incapacity benefit and so on.

By the way I have just bought a car, which was previously owned by a mobility person. 3years old with 60,000 on the clock. What was she a disabled taxi driver?

Something needs to be done, I'm no expert but throwing money at people who won't or even those poor souls who can't find work isn't the answer!