Mobile Override Discussion Area

bryzer

Hi gt94sss2 / Sunil!

many thanks for that! i was just thinking along similar lines! now fully set up with 11866 on my mobile, landline calls 0.5p/min, mobiles 2p/min weekends, 10p/min weekdays...actually beats my old Telco override in every department.

I currently use 11866 for most landline calls at home. I had been meaning to switch to 11866 on my mobile for ages (it was on my "Money Saving To do List") but Ornage "barring" free access to telco gave me the shove I needed!!


Checked with Orange Customer services and calls to all 0808 numbers are free.....for now!

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11866 STD Override number

Just thought I'd pass this on (just found the info on 11866).....

"(17.08.2004) New geographic access number for mobiles!
020 7001 9797... Especially for mobile users!
Some of our mobile customers cannot dial our 0808 170 170 8 number for free or use their inclusive free minutes to 0808 numbers.

We now also have a new 020 number available which can be used with your inclusive free minutes! Ring 020 7001 9797 for those who cannot ring our 0808 number for free!"

http://www.call18866.co.uk/index2.php


Cheers!  :D

Re. Pablo's message above, I take it that where a mobile operator's tarrif has landlines in its inclusive minutes, then geographic access numbers such as 18866's 020 number would fall within these inclusive minutes? What is the possibility of mobile operators trying to barr access to these geographic access numbers in the way they have done with 0800/0808 access numbers? Also, on T-Mobile "Mix-It" tarrifs, what are their charges for accessing 0800/0808 and geographic access (e.g. 18866's 020) once the inclusive minutes have run out?

Paul_Varjak

Re. Pablo's message above, I take it that where a mobile operator's tarrif has landlines in its inclusive minutes, then geographic access numbers such as 18866's 020 number would fall within these inclusive minutes? What is the possibility of mobile operators trying to barr access to these geographic access numbers in the way they have done with 0800/0808 access numbers?

I believe that Orange do bar both freephone and geographic overrider numbers. It seem to me that the decision to ban override numbers depends on the amount of usage of a particular override number. So, I guess, the 020 number is less likely to be banned than the freephone number.

The thing is what will 18866 do if their access numbers are barred? To date, their freephone access number has not been barred but, I know, that Orange billing department reported me to their override-checking department some weeks ago for using the 18866 freephone number. I was also told, in no uncertain terms by an Orange Customer Services Manager, that Orange do not support override services - I ignored him!

My last bill from Orange was for just £10 - for Data tariff and no calls plus they have givne me the OPEN ACCESS pack on three months free trial even though that promotion finished months ago! That means I get unlimited free Internet access as well - even though Orange don't like that either!

Gabs27

The telestunt access number for mobiles is currently 08719991010 - you just call it, pause then dial the number you want to call. You can program it in front of numbers in your phone fairly easily if you insert the pause.

I just wondered - how do you insert a 'pause' when you program in front of numbers?

bryzer

I believe that Orange do bar both freephone and geographic overrider numbers. It seem to me that the decision to ban override numbers depends on the amount of usage of a particular override number. So, I guess, the 020 number is less likely to be banned than the freephone number.

The thing is what will 18866 do if their access numbers are barred? To date, their freephone access number has not been barred but, I know, that Orange billing department reported me to their override-checking department some weeks ago for using the 18866 freephone number. I was also told, in no uncertain terms by an Orange Customer Services Manager, that Orange do not support override services - I ignored him!

My last bill from Orange was for just £10 - for Data tariff and no calls plus they have givne me the OPEN ACCESS pack on three months free trial even though that promotion finished months ago! That means I get unlimited free Internet access as well - even though Orange don't like that either!

I can see how repeated calls to the same 0800/0808 might alert Orange, but how would any mobile operator be able to keep track of geographic access numbers, and wouldn't the override number provider simply change the geographic access number as I assume other telcos do. I hope some knowledgeable person can help here!

conker_3

I've registered my mobile with 18866 today. It's an Orange payg on the standard rate. As it is a weekend I should pay 0.5p per minute and 2.0p per minute for landline and mobile calls respectively. To test this I have checked my balance with Orange. Using the 0808 number I am surchaged by Orange at the standard rate. So I switched to using the 020 access number; a 1 minute call is working out at about 9p, irrespective of whether I call a mobile or a landline. Strange. Anyone have any helpful thoughts?

Paul_Varjak

BRYZER:

I can see how repeated calls to the same 0800/0808 might alert Orange, but how would any mobile operator be able to keep track of geographic access numbers, and wouldn't the override number provider simply change the geographic access number as I assume other telcos do. I hope some knowledgeable person can help here!

I think you will find that Orange can track geographical numbers as well as Freefone numbers. I have no doubt that they have software that will look at bills across their customers to see if there is a pattern of calling the same geographical number when customers still have inclusive minutes remaining.

joice

I found out this from Orange high speed data tariff's web site

Freephone numbers will be charged at standard high speed rates when connecting over 14.4kbs and charged as a standard call when connecting at 14.4KBS or below

Anyone who use high speed data tariff can confirm to me that call to 0808 using this tariff is really free...

comdw

I just wondered - how do you insert a 'pause' when you program in front of numbers?

You have to get the letter 'p' to show up in the number. On nokias you press * until you see it I think. Some phones you have to go into a menu and choose 'insert pause'.

Some phones (motorolas being one make) allow you to put 'p' and then 'n' which means any number, so if you store 08xxxxxxxxpn in your phonebook, when you dial it, it asks you what number from your contacts that you want dial!

bryzer

For those who can't use a freephone override number from their mobile, is it possible to use one geographic access number (say on one's inclusive landline minutes) to access another geographic access number to connect with another cross-network number. For example, could you phone 18866's 0207 access number to access 1899's 0207 number to call cross-network at (1p connection + 1/2p per minute (18866 charges)) + 3p (1899 charges) = 4p connection + 1/2 per minite (total charges). Phew!

Donnie

??? What are you saying that 18866 cross network charges are?
Further scrutiny is needed methinks.