Creepy Man making life hard! LONG

AliasGirl

Just to say as well I KNOW I have a responsibility and I will do something about it, I would never want a child to be harmed because of me but hopefully you can all understand the reason I didn't do anything before was because every single person I told treated me as if I was being stupid and paranoid so I thought the police would do the same. I'm just worried you all think I'm a bad person and shouldn't be working with children because I didn't tell the police sooner.

tired_mum

If he is there during Gang show rehersals or performance he must have a valid CRB but still you need to speak to the scout associaton for advice please
let me know how it goes PM if you would rather

foreign_correspondent

AliasGirl wrote: »

Just to say as well I KNOW I have a responsibility and I will do something about it, I would never want a child to be harmed because of me but hopefully you can all understand the reason I didn't do anything before was because every single person I told treated me as if I was being stupid and paranoid so I thought the police would do the same. I'm just worried you all think I'm a bad person and shouldn't be working with children because I didn't tell the police sooner.

No, but you have asked for advice now - I am afraid if you neglect to discuss this with the police now, you may as well collude with him...

You feel your parents should have done more to protect you - I agree, but you cannot turn the clock back. What you can do is change the future though - do not let another kid come to the conclusion an adult (i.e. you) should have protected them better - it sounds like what you experienced was thoroughly unpleasant, but for some kids who are easily led, lonely and impressionable the consequences of this man's unhealthy interest in young girls could be far more serious.

The police shoudl take this seriously - please stress to them that you are raising this due to Child Protection concerns, not just to report your own experiences of this man - please do let them know he is also actively seeking voluntary roles where he has contact with children.

If I were you I would make a list that details your concerns - and comments he has made to other people like your friend, re: watching her change.

patchwork_cat

Hugs to the OP- rather futile, but I am sending you my best.

One issue that I have is with CRB checks people are becoming complacent. This mans CRB will most probably not show anything and he will be able technically to work with kids - in order for a CRB to show something then someone needs to have been harmed I believe (would enhanced show a warning?) If 1 person is harmed that is 1 too many.

I would ring the police with your concerns - the child protection team as some one has said as it would be safer if this man didn't work with girls as even if he means no harm (not saying he doesn't) he obviously doesn't behave appropriatley. He needs to leave you alone as well, do you know his mum at all?

I may not have expressed what I feel too well, but it worries me when people say oh their CRB is fine, when their behaviour is just not bad enough to have a warning or conviction.

whitewing

I understand how upset you are, and also that your parents did nothing (mine did nothing when I told them a weird man had been looking up my skirt in the library - turns out he had been banned from the library before following similar complaints).

I read this article earlier today. Have someone with you when or if you read it, but it does talk about an association that may be able to support you

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/women/relationships/article7107053.ece

Shame that when the times start charging for website access we will not be able to link things like this in so everyone can read.

sueeve

I understand that an enhanced CRB means that intelligence is taken into account as well as offeces of which he is found guilty. People like him will get clearance if there is no record of his behaviour. So get it on the record today

foreign_correspondent

en enhanced CRB shows up warnings and concerns reported to the police - IIRC it was brought in after the Soham murders, as Ian Huntley had a clean CRB, as he had never been prosecued but had been reported to the police for innapropriate behaviour with young girls... it was felt that employing organisations should be made aware of this if it was deemed appropriate to the role the individual was applying for.

Brighton_belle

OP -I don't believe anyone here remotely thinks you are a bad person at all. You are young, and many of us realise this is a big deal going to the police and understand your fears of not being taken seriously becasue we not before by those who should have been protecting you when young.
It is that desire to show you how strongly we believe in you, and what has happened to you and is still happening to you and now maybe other children that people are being so verment in their urging that you go to the police/ scout HQ etc.

Honestly - I would have been nervous too - conficence in deaing with authorities does come wiht age, and you are young so your fears are totally understandable. But we long to see you now act.

Be brave and do it, you have all our support and backing. This is a good thing you are going to do.

foreign_correspondent

I agree - it is scary, but you have to be brave and make sure the police are aware of your concerns - they are not at all silly, and should be taken seriously. You have to be brave - if you do nothing, who wins...? You will still be worried, and he will still be able to access kids unhindered...

Happy_Girl_2

God how awful!

I must admit to not reading the replies, so forgive me if I am repeating what someone else has said

1) Ring the police. Show them exactly what you have written here. It is very concise, and will probably be easier for you to get your story over
Your friend in the Council has also experienced this. Ask her to go with you and support you if she can? She heard him agmit to !!!!!philia thoughts

2) Contact the Scout HQ. Your Scout Leader has aloowed an odd person who has been repeatedly complained about, to work with children on an out of date CRB. He needs to be held accountable for that and explain his reasoning. IMO the Scout Leader is just as dangerous as this creepy man! What else is he not taking seriously??

I feel for you, and I hope you manage to find some peace soon. But you do need to act! You have a responsibility to the other kids in your care to act! Please do it today!