Inappropriate behaviour from a child in dd's class. How would you feel?

galvanizersbaby

jamespir wrote: »

im nether
youre a case in point then
its not equal is it if you earn more than your partner and you taken great delight in bragging about it

:rotfl:I don't personally earn more than my partner - I was just stating that some women do
If I were to earn more than my partner I would not brag about it - personally speaking we are a partnership and the money we earn is our money (but that it us and that is how we manage our finances - I recognise others may be different)

I am however usually home from work later than my partner though

I see what you are trying to get at (I think) but I don't think you are making your points very well (and possibly not on the most relevant thread)

Bitsy_Beans

jamespir wrote: »

come on we all know that women want to take over the world they like to be in control and they hate it when there men refuse they also hate it when men are in controll

its great to have an equal partnership in marriage share and share alike but i can catergorically guarentee if your hubbys late from work youll be on the blower wondering where he is if he hasnt rung you demainding to know why hes late

women call it caring the actual term is controlling !!!!! therefore that doesent make it equal

As a woman myself your narrow minded misogynistic view quite offensive. You do not speak for all women (and one prays all men). this is your view so please don't act like this is some common judgment amongst humans <rollseyes>
So if my H is late from work and not warned me I am controlling because I worry in case he's been knocked off his bike? !!!!!! what planet are you on? My H rings me if I am late back from an expected time - its his right to because he loves me and cares about my welfare.

jamespir wrote: »

i dont think all women are feminists at all

you sat this is mine this is yours is childish and silly i do agree but ive read over 100 post from both husbands and wives on here who state that

they paid there partners debt or lent the money for a holiday or a car and that they havent paid them back yet when the othere decides to spend there money on themselves it suddenly becomes OUR money

I really don't know what this point is making? You've just contradicted yourself since you agree with my comment about saying "this is my money and that's yours" but then in earlier posts you think a husband (or wife) has the right to spend any money they have earnt as they see fit once the bills are paid?????

jamespir wrote: »

im not a bigot at all i just see things how they are

women want equal oppurtunites thats fine but

lets look at a few things where that fails

if i were to hit my partner i would be locked up and branded a domestic abuser

my partner hits me im told to grow up and be a man


i get a women home we both get stupidly drunk she waskes up in the morning realises shes made a mistake and crys rape goes to the police im hauled up then most likely sent to prison as i cant prove that she agreed to sex as we were both drunk

on the other hand she takes me home get's me stupidly drunk has sex with me without my will i go to the poilce and they will most likely say what you complaining for


so how is that fair

also at work how many women have won sexual harrasment cases compared to men
probably loads

you see women like to make the rules and scream blue murder if there broke yet if a man is on the recieving end the goalpost get moved

there are so many sweeping generalisations in this one post it's untrue.
If you were to be suffering domestic abuse then that is despicable and no one should suffer it. The sad fact is though more women than men suffer domestic abuse and sexual harrassment.

You say you like women. The content of your posts would suggest otherwise quite frankly. You sound as though you despise women and we are always trying to manipulate the situation.

jamespir

Bitsy_Beans wrote: »

As a woman myself your narrow minded misogynistic view quite offensive. You do not speak for all women (and one prays all men). this is your view so please don't act like this is some common judgment amongst humans <rollseyes>
So if my H is late from work and not warned me I am controlling because I worry in case he's been knocked off his bike? !!!!!! what planet are you on? My H rings me if I am late back from an expected time - its his right to because he loves me and cares about my welfare.





I really don't know what this point is making? You've just contradicted yourself since you agree with my comment about saying "this is my money and that's yours" but then in earlier posts you think a husband (or wife) has the right to spend any money they have earnt as they see fit once the bills are paid?????



there are so many sweeping generalisations in this one post it's untrue.
If you were to be suffering domestic abuse then that is despicable and no one should suffer it. The sad fact is though more women than men suffer domestic abuse and sexual harrassment.

You say you like women. The content of your posts would suggest otherwise quite frankly. You sound as though you despise women and we are always trying to manipulate the situation.

sorry your assuming that i hate women im misogynistic (well done for the fancy feminist term)

all ive said is that women "in general " are treated differently to men in so many ways but differently to how it was before the suffragette movement these days its the women"in general" that are the ones in charge and the men are expected to shut up or leave


i and regards to my post about a man spending the money he has earnt as he sees fit it works both ways a man gives his spouse housekeeping(generally i know some women work ) the women spends it on food etc and if she has any money left the generally they will buy clothes for themselves or go out on a girls night out

the same with women where both partners work they pay there bills etc then they both go on there nights out (if they don't have kids i know its hard when you have kids) does the wife give money to the husband to go out or vica versa no they use theyre own money so wheres the difference

jamespir

galvanizersbaby wrote: »

I see what you are trying to get at (I think) but I don't think you are making your points very well (and possibly not on the most relevant thread)

yes sorry to the op for hijacking your thread

Bitsy_Beans

jamespir wrote: »

sorry your assuming that i hate women im misogynistic (well done for the fancy feminist term)

all ive said is that women "in general " are treated differently to men in so many ways but differently to how it was before the suffragette movement these days its the women"in general" that are the ones in charge and the men are expected to shut up or leave


i and regards to my post about a man spending the money he has earnt as he sees fit it works both ways a man gives his spouse housekeeping(generally i know some women work ) the women spends it on food etc and if she has any money left the generally they will buy clothes for themselves or go out on a girls night out

the same with women where both partners work they pay there bills etc then they both go on there nights out (if they don't have kids i know its hard when you have kids) does the wife give money to the husband to go out or vica versa no they use theyre own money so wheres the difference

Are you trying to be patronising with the bit in bold? I don't consider myself much of a feminist but I use words that fit the situation........

With regards to the rest of your post. Pre kids me and H had a joint pot of money. If he needed to go out with the lad he took some money, likewise the same for me. There is a trend for having separate bank accounts which is not something I see as necessary - this is perhaps where your examples apply? If both partners in a relationship are happy with the status quo regarding money that's great. But the problem is when ONE party of the relationship is unhappy - you seem to think that because SOME couples have his 'n' hers money then everyone does and therefore no one should complain about it.

jamespir

Bitsy_Beans wrote: »

Are you trying to be patronising with the bit in bold? I don't consider myself much of a feminist but I use words that fit the situation........

With regards to the rest of your post. Pre kids me and H had a joint pot of money. If he needed to go out with the lad he took some money, likewise the same for me. There is a trend for having separate bank accounts which is not something I see as necessary - this is perhaps where your examples apply? If both partners in a relationship are happy with the status quo regarding money that's great. But the problem is when ONE party of the relationship is unhappy - you seem to think that because SOME couples have his 'n' hers money then everyone does and therefore no one should complain about it.

NO I DONT

not at all i think relationship should be about sharing but i do understand the need to spend money on ones self and i cant see much wrong with it as long as it doesent put the other person out


and i wasnt being patronising i was just pointing out that misogynist is a feminist word ( dont belive me look it up in the dictionary)

thatgirlsam

jamespir wrote: »

im not a bigot at all i just see things how they are

women want equal oppurtunites thats fine but

lets look at a few things where that fails

if i were to hit my partner i would be locked up and branded a domestic abuser

my partner hits me im told to grow up and be a man


i get a women home we both get stupidly drunk she waskes up in the morning realises shes made a mistake and crys rape goes to the police im hauled up then most likely sent to prison as i cant prove that she agreed to sex as we were both drunk

on the other hand she takes me home get's me stupidly drunk has sex with me without my will i go to the poilce and they will most likely say what you complaining for


so how is that fair

also at work how many women have won sexual harrasment cases compared to men
probably loads

you see women like to make the rules and scream blue murder if there broke yet if a man is on the recieving end the goalpost get moved

i think james really raises some good points here - i honestly do think that we are turning into a society full of man haters sometimes ..

i saw my brother at the park terrified to talk to someones small child who was speaking to him - in case the mother thought he was dodgy !

how sad is that

and james , a feminist would never do any of those things you have listed , a feminist believes in EQUALITY for the sexes

and yes i am a feminist

teabythesea

I study education and please be careful not to 'gossip' to other parents about this. And the whole sexual abuse thing, yes it can be but the term should not be thrown around at all. And at their age it should not be the first thing everyone thinks of. Like someone said, children go through the Phalic stage.
If your DD is upset, why? We were all born naked, she should not be scared of genitals or a naked boy of her age!
It's because this country tries to keep sex hush hush and sex ed. until the children are old that we have so many teen pregnancies.

thatgirlsam

Gingham_Ribbon wrote: »

Excellent post. I'd add though that this CAN be a sign of abuse and for that reason I'd tread very carefully and allow school to handle it unless the child is touched in an inappropriate way.

hmmm yes , so in that case 99% of boys are showing a symptom of sexual abuse ?

i think its a fine line here , inappropriate ' sexual ' behaviour can be a sign ..

i don't think a 5 year old flashing a willy comes into this category

im not sure tbh , i don't want this poor boy to have some sort of label for what is normal behaviour

teabythesea

I am so with you thatgirlsam!! My brother used to do it, I used to do it all my cousins did too! Children are and always will be CURIOUS!